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niated, and denies to the injured party the Marquess of Hastings remain, not only benefit of his testimony, is himself as gross your most successful, but your most illa calumniator as if he had giren birth to rewarded and most calumniated Governorthe scandal. (Hear, heur !) Silence will general. (Heur, heur !) After the exhibinot do on such an occasio:. Falsehood tion I have witnessed this day, I do not may be propagated by silence as well as by value the opinion of the Court of Direcopen assertion. Indeed the former is the tors, as it regards him, one fig's end. They more base and villainous mode of giving are incompetent to decide on his case ; currency to slander, inasmuch as it is the they have disqualified themselves from actmore sculking and cowardly. (Heur, ing as impartial jurors, and cannot there. hear !) There is not a more dangerous or fore decide on this charge. I say they are a more certain way of aiding the views of rather themselves to be brought to trial for a caluminator than by silent acquiescence their conduct on this occasion ; they stand -by adopting that phrase, that figure of as the accused calumniators of the Marspeech, which the French call rélicence. quess of Hastings; and certain I am, that A more efiective, a deeper wound cannot the indignant feelings of Englishmen will be inflicted on reputation, than by main compel them, however tardily or reluc. taining a mysterious silence when calumny tantly, not only to clear the character of is afloat. I believe, when Englishmen the Noble Marquess, but to reward him proread the newspapers of to-morrow, they perly for his manifold services. (Hear!) will not be able to persuade themselves These are my feelings, and the feelings of that this discussion really took place here. the public in every quarter of the empire ; They will not suppose it possible that you and I leave it to the Chairman to explain, could treat any man in this way: much less for be has not yet explained, bis reasons will they believe that such conduct was for having remained silent this day. Per. observed towards the Marquess of Hastings; haps the Hon. Gent. on the other side of towards one to whom your thanks and the Court (Nir. Trant) may be retained as gratitude are due to an annount which his the best expounder of the reasons why, tory will scarcely credit. (Hear, hear!) when a great and gallant officer is accused But if he were an individual in the lowest and calumniated, and the Chairman is situation, without any claims whatever on asked officially for an answer on the subyour feelings, and if the question were ject, he may with propriety acquiesce in put to you, ' have you discovered any thing the calumny, by preserving an impenetrable derogatory to his character, any thing in- silence. (Heur, hear!) I regret that I am consistent with his honour?'--you are compelled to be so direct in my observabound to answer the interrogatory as men tions, but I feel for the character of that of principle and integrity. (Hear, hear!) body of which I am a member. For the Şir, I am yet to learn what inconvenience Court of Directors I have ever manifested is likely to result from giving an answer ; a proper respect; I know they are often and I leave it to the gentlemen who are placed in situations of delicacy. But when silent, and to the public, who will, in spite it comes to the question, whether, by of all evasions, be scrupulous judges of tamely acquiescing in the dictum of authomen's conduct, to say what the inferencerity, I am to do injustice, or to put myself will be when it is stated that, having been in the breach for the purpose of resisting called on to put down calumny, and being it, I cannot pause as to the course which bound in honour and justice to accede to I ought to prefer. In such a case, I must that call, a suspicious silence was observ- call those whom I think in error to account ed. (Hear, hear !) The public, sir, can for their conduct; and I hope that, in donot do you injustice by the worst inter- ing so, I shall receive credit for the feelpretation, since you withhold your evi- ings which actuate me, and of which I am dence, and thus strengthen the slander. I not ashamed. (Hear, hear !) I have no say it is right that we should not delay private or personal motive in advocating a moment in doing justice to the Marquess the cause of the Marquess of Hastings: I of Hastings. The Court of Proprietors have been but twice in his company since ought immediately to take his case into he returned from India, and but once betheir own hands. (Hear, hear!) I will fore. I came to this Court perfectly un.. not trust it to the Court of Directors. I fettered, not bound to take any course but will not trust it to that body who have ne what circumstances would justify; and I gatived a grant to the Noble Marquess, and vow to God, if a proposition were made to then suffer it to be insinuated that the ne. reward the Marquess of Hastings, and it gative was put on that proposition, in con were shewn to me that he was unworthy of sequence of some discovered embezzlement. your bounty, that he had in any way tarnish(Hear !) The Marquess of Hastings chal. ed his great character, I should forget his lenges the Proprietors to decide on his rank, and the exalted situation he had filled, character. He challenges them to decide and strenuously oppose it. (Hear, heari) whether that character is to be placed on a Mr. Lowndes.The zeal now shewn for level with preceding Governor-generals, or the character of the Marquess of Hastings to be consigned to cbloquy. Let not the will act as a warning, not rashly to publish
an accusation against any individual, with- good deal surprised at what has happened out bearing what he has to say in his de this day. Look, said the Hon. Chairman, fence.-(Order!)
to the interruption which has been given to The Chairman.-" I hope the Hon. Pro. the regular business. But why was it? prietor, who has addressed the Court se If he had answered the question at onee, veral times, will desist, and suffer us now no difficulty would have arisen. In the to proceed to the regular business of the House of Commons, if the Minister reday. The Court must feel that a great fuse to answer a plain question, a debate deal of time has already been consumed.” ensues; but, if a plain answer be returned,
Mr. Hume." I rise to ask whether, the matter is at an end." after what has passed, we are in a situation, Mr. Carruthers rose to order. The labouring as we must be under strongly- question is, “ whether the debate on the excited feelings, to proceed with the order College Establishment shall be adjourned of the day? When such a subject as the or not?” The matter to which the gallant East-India College is to be considered, we General is addressing himself has been ought to meet in a cool and temperate man disposed of. ner, without any party feeling whatsoever. General Thornton insisted on his right Certainly, after what has occurred, I for to proceed. one do not feel myself calculated to pro Mr. Lowndes said the gallant General ceed to the discussion of that question. I was decidedly out of order. wish to consider the College Establishment General Thornton,~“We are not, after fairly, and to apply to it my best and what has bappened, in a situation to procalmest observation, therefore I should ceed with the regular business of the day ; rather decline going into the subject at and I have a right, in supporting the mopresent. I hope also that the gentlernen tion for adjournment, to make a few obwithin the bar will feel the necessity of de- servations. I think the Hon. Chairman is lay, since the benefit of their institution bound to answer any fair question : but will mainly depend on the success of my more particularly so, when such a man as Hon. Friend's motion, and they certainly the Marquess of Hastings is concerned. will not act wisely if it be hurried on this It is astonishing to me that any subterfuge day. I know the business of the Court of should be resorted to for the purpose of Directors was so regulated as to admit of evading an answer, But perhaps I have the question being discussed on this occa no right to wonder at it after the letter sion; but unforeseen circumstances have written by Colonel Doyle to the Chairman, occurred, which render delay, in my opi- and which has been so improperly answernion, advisable.-( Hear!) I therefore ed. I hope that, in future, the disposisubmit, that this debate be adjourned to tion of the Chairman and Directors will this day fortnight. I think, at that time, be to answer any questions that may be we shall all meet together with better put to them by the Proprietors in a re. feelings.
spectful manner, instead of avoiding, unThe motion having been seconded, - der the colour of a strict adherence to form,
A Proprietor observed, that it would be the granting to their constituents inforexceedingly inconvenient to gentlemen re mation of importance.” siding at the other end of the town if the Mr. Lowndes again argued that they motion were adjourned. He believed all ought to go on with the regular business. the parties had come prepared for the The charge against the Marquess of Hasdiscussion.
tings had ended like the story of the Another Proprietor was of opinion, that three black crows. Had he (Mr. Lowndes) it would be an act of great injustice if the in addressing the Court, dared or ventured to subject were brought forward to-day. make such observations as some gentlemen
The Chairman then put the motion had done, he would have been clamoured “ That this (the College) question be ad down. journed to this day fortnight."
The question of adjournment was then Mr. Lowndes opposed the adjournment, put; and, on a show of hands, carried He saw no rational ground for it. He by a large majority. should be absent 170 miles from town a
INDIA BONDS. fortnight hence, though that, perhaps, with some of the Proprietors, would alone be a General Thornton wished, before the good reason for adjourning the question. Court broke up, to ask a question of great (A laugh.)
interest to the Proprietors and the public; General Thornton.-" In rising to sup perhaps more particularly so to the latter. port the motion, I take the opportunity of The gallant general then stated (as we entering my protest against the conduct of understood, for the noise occasioned by the Hon. Chairman this day, without, gentlemen leaving the Court was very however, meaning any personal disrespect great) that India bonds now paid 34 per to him. Having had the honour of a seat cent., and were at a premium of 80s. А in Parliament for some years, and having great saving would be effected by lowerduring that time, sat with him, I am a ing the interest to 2 per cent., and he
wished to know whether it was intended to the full confidence that the discussion now reduce it.
about to commence would be the last that The Chairman said it was a matter that would ever be necessary in that Court on must be left to the judgment of the Direc: the subject of the College, he had deemed tors. He was now in the same situation it to be his duty to introduce it to the as before; and considering himself as the notice of the Proprietors. Before he came organ of the Court of Directors, he could to discuss the merits of the proposition not, without their authority, give an an with which he would have the honour to swer to the question.
conclude, he claimed for himself, and for The Court was then adjourned.
those who acted with him, a fair interpre
tation of their conduct; and, to prove the East-India House, Feb. 25.
sincerity of their professions, he would
state what had been their general course of HAILEYBURY COLLEGE.
conduct. In the year 1822 a very unA General Court of Proprietors of fortunate circumstauce occurred in the East-India Stock was this day held, by College at Haileybury, which ended in adjourunent, at the Company's House, in the expulsion and ruin of some half dozen Leadenhall Street, for the purpose of of students. He thought at the time, as taking into consideration the following several of his friends did, that if discusproposition, contained in a letter addressed sion were entered into at that moment, to the Court of Directors by more than while the occurrence was still fresh in the nine Proprietors, vis.
memory, such a discussion would neces. “ That application be made to Parlia sarily be attended with all those angry ment for the repeal of the 16th clause of feelings of reproach and recrimination, the Act of the 53d Geo. III. cap. 155, by which were perfectly natural under the which the Court of Directors is prohibited peculiar circumstances of the case. He, from sending to India, in the capacity of therefore, abstained from bringing the a writer, any person who shall not have question forward on that occasion; and he resided during four terms at the Hailey recollected, that when he put a question to bury College; and for introducing into the then Chairman (Mr. Pattison), he was the said Act a clause, appointing a public informed that the subject was under dis. examination, at such times and under such cussion in the Court of Directors; which regulations as the Court of Directors, with was a satisfactory reason for not pressing the approbation of the Board of Controul, the matter at that moment, and making may direct, to which examination all per such a proposition to the Court, as appearsons shall submit their acquirements and ed both to himself and to the public to be qualifications for approval, previous to their necessary. At a later period, he applied being permitted to proceed in the capacity to the Chair to know what progress had of Writers to either of the Presidencies of been made in the investigation: and the anFort William, Fort St. George, or Bom swer was, that a report had been made on bay."
the subject; but that the Court of DirecThe minutes of the last Court having tors did not think proper to found any been read, and the usual routine business measure on that report; and that the gone through,
Chairman was not authorized by the Exe. The Chairman (Wm. Wigram, Esq.) cutive Body to make any communication stated to the Proprietors the special pur to the Proprietors. He confessed that pose for which they were assembled. this answer did not astonish him in the
The requisition was then read by the least: because he was quite certain, fro:11 Clerk.
the first, that it was out of the power of The Hon. D. Kinnaird immediately rose. any member of the Court of Directors, or He begged the Court to be assured that, of that whole body, to amend the evils when he placed his name at the bottom of which he would undertake to shew were the writing which had just been read, he inherent in the Institution ; and he flatterwas deeply impressed with, because he had ed himself he would be able to prove to fully considered the importance of intro the Court that, so long as those evils reducing into that Court, the subject of mained, the College would be the scene of Haileybury College. He not only felt periodical commotion. It was his partithe importance of such a discussion as it cular object on this occasion, and to that regarded the institution itself, but also object he meant to adhere most strictly, to with reference to the unpleasant feelings to point out those defects which existed in tbe which it might give rise. He was of opi- College at present; which, from its fornion that the Court of Proprietors was the mation, were naturally to be found there; last place in which the subject should be which had been connected with it from the considered, if it were possible to avoid beginning; and which would for ever connoticing it there; therefore, in the hope tinue attached to it, unless the Court that one discussion would prevent the ne- adopted the measure he meant to propose. cessity of bringing forward this question He did not intend to advert to any partiin future, he had signed that paper.
With cular occurrence which had taken place in
the College ; it would be sufficient for him fraction of any of those regulations, he was to shew that, from the nature of the regula. subject to expulsion ; and, when that took tions, it was impossible to prevent the re place, all his hopes of employment in the currence of periodical commotion. He had Company's service were put an end to. no intention, and indeed there was no ne He would contend that no institution, in cessity, to go over the grounds which were any part of the world, and under any cirformerly discussed, when this subject was cumstances, where a number of young debated for three or four days together ; he men were placed, in statu pupillari, could would not detail the history, nor criticize succeed, unless the professors were invested the policy of this Institution. He did not with sovereign authority. It was imposcare whether it originated in motives per sible that any such institution could exist fectly pure, or whether it was established with advantage, unless a discretionary power to pull down another institution. He had were granted to individuals in office, to gonothing to do with any party. He gave vern those who were placed under their care the Directors full credit for endeavouring by such rules as appeared to them best for to obtain (that which was now admitted to the purpose of preventing moral contagion. be of the utmost importance all over the They ought to be entrusted, not only with world) an “ improved education,” for · the power of punishing vice, but of prethose young men who were candidates for venting its contagious growth. If a young their service. To effect this object, two man misconducted himself, he ought to things appeared to be necessary: one, that be at once removed. Those under whose the period of proceeding to India should government he was placed should be aube later than it formerly was; and next, thorized to say to him, “your habits are that facilities should be given for a par so dissolute, your conduct is so improper, licular description of education. The that it is unfit you should longer remain question then came to this : “ Were there here. You are spreading the contagion of facilities in this country for acquiring those your evil example around, and, should branches of knowledge which were de- your principles be disseminated while we sirable to be possessed by persons proceed are endeavouring to correct you, more mis. ing to India ?” It seemed that, at the chief will be engendered than the expulperiod of which he spoke, there was no sion of twenty youths can remove: we specific institution for this purpose ; and will endeavour to prevent this by sending if the Company demanded certain qualifi- you away.” That power must be lodged in cations, they were answered, that the means the principals of every establishment devoted of acquiring them in this country did not to education, or else it could not prosper. exist. The Directors then said, “ the Com It was so lodged, and safely lodged, with pany, at their own expense, will afford those who were at the head of schools, pubyou, the candidates for civil situations, all lic and private. Why did he say that it was the necessary facilities; and we trust, and safely lodged? Because no individual at have a right to expect, that you will profit the head of any scholastic establishment, by the facilities thus established, and that from a regard to his interest as well as his the Company also will be benefited by character, would dare to abuse that power, them.” Farther than this, he thought it He would feel, when he resorted to the was utterly impossible that the Directors measure of publicly expelling a boy from could have had any object; there, if they the institution over which he presided, had stopped, they would have been reward that he put himself on his trial before the ed by the sincere good wishes of all par public, by whom his conduct would be ties, and the College would not have been canvasscd ; and he would know that, if the source of incessant discussion, in and the public heard of ten or twelve students out of that Court. Unfortunately, how. being expelled from time to time, their ever, one clause was introduced into the natural inference must be that the school Act of Parliament, the probable conse was bad, and they would have nothing to quences of which were not duly appre- do with it. Nothing, however, could be ciated at the time. He alluded to that un fairer than to say to a young man who natural clause, which converted their boon misbehaved, “your habits are such that it into a penalty, which rendered their bene- is impossible you can continue in this involent design an object of terror and stitution; you have done that which is alarm-of, he would say, just and natural contrary to our rules; retire, therefore, terror and aları. He spoke of the clause and seek for instruction elsewhere." In making it absolutely necessary, that every that case, the punishment would extend candidate presenting himself at the bar of only to the immediate act of removal; it the Court of Directors, before going ont would not have the effect of wholly blightto India as a civil servant, should pass four ing a young man's prospects in life. How terms at Haileybury College. Now, it is different was the case in this institution ! quite clear, that a person could not pass He would suppose the case of an inidvi. four terms there without strictly obeying all dual entering this establishment (and here the regulations; and, by the law, as it now it ought not to be overlooked, that you stood, if an individual committed an in compelled them to enter) who, unfortu.
nately from his previous habits, from his retained for a considerable period ? Why having the command of a vast deal of should it be demanded of him to send his money, or from any other cause, was un child to a seminary, from which they could willing to accept of an Indian appoint not remove a young man, however indif. ment, was it, he asked, to be endured, ferent his previously acquired habits were, that such a person was to be forced on until he had broken one of the statutes ? the establishment ? Was he to, reinain Mr. Malthus pretty strongly pointed out until he infringed some positive regula- the impossibility of removing a vicious or tion? Should not the Professors be allow. refractory character without clamour and ed to say, “ if you retire, the business of cavil; without putting, as it were, th: the institution will proceed correctly; if College and its authorities on trial. When you do not, all our time will be taken up that which he had described was the fact, in correcting those vicious habits which when such a heavy punishment as expulyou have previously acquired.” Ought sion, with all its lamentable consequences, not the Professors to be placed in loco pa was resorted to; when a great penalty was rentis, with full authority to prevent, on inflicted, but the disgrace was not rethe moment, the contagion of bad exam. moved; certainly, under such circumple? This was one inherent evil of the • stances, they were put upon their trial. system, and was particularly insisted on He contended, that a parent ought not by Mr. Malthus. That gentleman said, send his son to a school where crime was speaking of the inherent evils of the in- suffered to grow up, and was then punishstitution, “the next permanent difficulty ed: but to a seminary where a good syswhich the College had to contend with, is tem, the system of preventing the recurthe chance that some of the young men, rence of crime, prevailed. Where a young whose parents have obtained appointments man shewed an indisposition to attend to for them, may be indisposed to the service, his scholastic duties, the parent ought to and not really wish to go out to India. be thus addressed : “Sir, this institntion Instances have not been uncommon of an was founded for the benefit of all young persevering opposition to the regulations of men intended for a particular service; the College, which could only be rationally your son has come here, but he does not accounted for by supposing a positive avail himself of the facilities which it afdisinclination to the service. It is to be fords : therefore take him away.” What feared that there are young men who would could be fairer or more just than this? By prefer expulsion, on occasion of some ge the existing system, the young men were neral disturbance, when many are in forced to proceed to the College; it was volved, to an open and manly rejection of not their voluntary act, nor that of their an appointment, which is considered by parents. Mr. Malthus farther observed : their parents as so valuable.” This was * The collegiate authorities now legally a remarkably candid statement. From possess the power both of expelling and this it appeared, that young men were of refusing certificates ; but, unfortunate. forced on you, whose sole object was to ly, from the disposition shewn by the get expelled. It was a most harsh mea. founders and patrons of the College, and sure, that a young man was obliged to go that part of the public connected with on in a course for which he had no incli India, in every case where the loss of an nation, or which he absolutely disliked, appointment is in question, a full support until, having violated some statute to the in the exercise of this power cannot be deletter, he was driven out of the College pended upon. If this difficulty could be by a sentence of expulsion, confirmed by removed, the best hopes might be enterthe Bishop of London, as visitor. In the tained of the result.” This was what he mean time, from the period of his en wished for. He should like the collegiate trance to his dismissal, he may have been authorities to have the power of saying, spreading the contagion of his evil habits, when the conduct of a youth was objecand rendering others, whose fortunes de tionable, “ Sir, you must depart : we will pended on their keeping four terms strict. not ruin you, but we will prevent you ly, as idle and as dissolute as himself. from ruining others. Here is the wellWould it not be much better to co-operate head, as clear as fountain water can be; in some measure less decisive than that but none shall approach it who come here, which was now adopted, instead of being not to drink, but to trouble the waters.' obliged, from its extreme severity, to pause Surely this could be easily effected, since before it was carried into effect; instead of every regulation made by the Directors suffering an unfit student to remain till became law, and had the force of law a regular sentence of expulsion was pro under this statute. Mr. Malthus proceeded nounced against him, after all the mischief in these words : “ If the College were so which could be effected by bad example supported as to enable it gradually to subhad been effected? If such were the true due the spirit of insubordination, by restate of the case, why should he be asked moving refractory and vicious characters to send his sons to an institution where without clamour or cavil, and to exercise such subjects were not only admitted, but its discretionary power in refusing certifi