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Finances of the Year 1799. Committee of Supply. Navy Estimates-Sir John Sinclair's Objections-Debate on the Subject. Army Estimates. The first Budget-Supply-Ways and Means. Income Tax-Debate on the Reso lutions relative to it-Resolutions-Debate on the Report. Bargain for Part of the Loan. Further Debates on the Income Tax in the House of Commons-Debates on the same Bill in the House of Lords—Amendments made in the same Bill in the House of Commons after its Return from the House of Lords. Vote of Credit for Three Millions on Exchequer Bills. Subsidy to Russia. Further Fote of Credit for Three Millions to enable his Majesty to make good Engagements. Second Bulget-Ways and Means-New Taxes. Resolutions relative to the Service of Ireland. Mr. Tierney's Motion relative to the Finances of the Coun try-Debate on that Subject. India Budget.

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HE finances of the year 1799 were introduced by a notice given to the house of commons, on the 26th of November, by the chancellor of the exchequer, that on that day fortnight he should have the honour of making a statement of the whole ways and means of the year. The plan of proceeding which he meant to recommend, was that of raising within the year a considerable part of the supplies. The principle of that plan had already received the approbation of the house; but what he had to propose would, he trusted, be done in a mode less exceptionable than that of the former year. The principle, however, was the same, and the advantage of it had been already felt; and so far was he from apprehending it would not be approved, that he expected a general concurrence. For the present he should defer the detail of the plan, and propose that the resolutions should be voted, and a bill introduced in pursuance of them on Monday; he should then propose that the blanks should be filled up, and that the interval of nearly a week should be taken to peruse it; and

afterwards he should propose the re-commitment, which he hoped would take place on Friday.

Preparatory to the introduction of the minister's new plan of finance, the house entered into a committee of supply on the 27th of November. Mr. Hobart then brought up the report, in which it had been voted that 120,000 men be employed for the service of the navy for the year 1799, including 20,000 marines. The several resolutions were read a first time; and, on their second reading, granting 120,000 men for the service of the navy,

Sir John Sinclair rose, and said, that, after a cool and careful deliberation on the subject of the present resolution, he found himself countenanced and confirmed, by a variety of what he deemed to be cogent reasons, in an opinion he had formerly expressed, namely, that the number of seamen proposed to be employed was by no means called for by the necessary service and exigences of the state. When he considered the depressed and ruined condition of the enemy's fleet, the fallen condition to which it was reduced by the superior skill and gal

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lantry of British seamen, he could not but rest satisfied, that victories so brilliant and decisive as those which our navy had achieved must render a far less naval force than that hitherto employed fully adequate to every purpose of annoyance and defence. But when he moreover considered, that our exertions were now to be seconded and invigorated by the co-operation of Russia, of Turkey, of the Neapolitans, and the Portuguese, he was further strengthened in the opinion that a less naval force would be necessary; and he was more par ticularly impressed with the necessity of turning the most serious-attention of the house to the deranged situation of our finances; a situation which pointed out economy as the great object that should now engross their exertions and their thoughts; not that economy, as it had been characterised by the right honourable gentleman, but a vigorous, an essential, and general economy, that should regulate the expenditure of not only one branch of the administrative power, an economy which should pervade and purify every department of the

state.

He had carefully perused Steel's List, and there he observed that we were now in possession of one hundred and forty-three sail of ships of war; of these, that eighty-five were employed in actual service; that twenty-eight were fitting out, refiting, in the different ports; that no less than thi ty sail of the line were actually employed as guardships: and that thirty sail of the line should be thus cooped up in a state of inertness that only accumulated idle expense, was what he could not think of with ut regret, and what loudly called for the most serious consideration of the well-wishers to

public economy. He was charged with holding opinions of a singular nature; but the more he considered them, the less he could see them chargeable with singularity. What he advanced was, that a greater number than that 'called for last year, viz. 110,000 seamen, was not necessary for the service of the ensuing year. He alluded to the opinion of Mr. Hussey, who was not now present. But the enemy did not now possess seventy sail of effective ships: there was therefore nothing like the same number now necessary on our side; and were the house to vote a supply of naval force in proportion to the now existing force of the enemy, they could not well exceed fifty-five ships. Should a peace be speedily concluded, what would be the result? Immediately we should have to discharge at once the immense force of 90,000 seamen, and 350,000 soldiers. Should a war with France continue for a length of time longer, would not wisdom and experience suggest the propriety of our then carrying on the war upon as reduced a scale as possible? This caution was hinted and enforced by an old political maxim, a maxim wise as it was old, that exhausto denario et imminente calamitate cavendum ergt ne res publica deseretur.

Mr. Thomas Wallace said, he could by no means agree in opinion with the honourable baronet, notwithstanding the declaration he had made, that his sentiments upon the present question were the result of a cool and careful examination.

General Tarleton assured the house also, and the honourable baronet who opposed the resolution, that neither he, nor those political friends with whom he had the honour to act, either now or ever did entertain an idea of opposing any thing that went to strengthen our naval

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department, which was the pride of the nation and its best defence; on the contrary, they had always approved of the measures that had that tendency, and gave them al the countenance in their power. The resolution was then put and agreed to, with only one dissenting voice, namely, that of Sir John Sinclair.

On the 28th of November the chancellor of the exchequer moved the house to resolve itself into a committee of the whole house, to consider of the ways and means for raising a supply granted to his majesty.

The house having accordingly resolved itself into a committee, he moved the following resolutions: "That it is the opinion of this committee, that, wards raising the supply granted to his majesty, the severat duties imposed upon sugar by the 27th, 34th, and 37th of his present majesty, and also the datics of excise on tobacco and snuff, directed in the last session of parliament to be continued until the th of March, 1730, should be further continued until the 5th day of March, 1800.

"That four shillings in the pound, and no more, be imposed on all pensions, offices, &c. a..d continued. "That the duty on malt, &c. be continued from the 23d of June, 1799 to the 24th of June, 1800."

These resolutions were agreed to; and the house being resumed, the report was ordered for Friday; on which day the secretary at war proceeded to open the army estimates; his great cbject in doing which, he said, was to shew the difference between present and former estimates. The difference between this and the last year would be some thing more than one million. The objects which had created this dif

ference were the supplementary militia, provisional cavalry, the vo lunteer corps, and barracks. The estimates for the year 1797 amounted to the sum of 6,900,000l. T ose of the following year were voted at two different times. The first sum (5.900,000l.) was considerably less than that of the preceding year, and would have answered for the charges of last year, were it not that other objects, not expected at the time the estimates were made, arose out of the situation ofalfairs that afterwards took plwe: the charges, therefore, attendant upon those new arrangements, added to those already estimated for the year 178 (2,316, col.) amounted in the whole to the sum of 8,305,9251. Besides these increased establishments, which we e to be kept up for the ensuing year,” there were some volunteer corps that had not been called out till the present time, and others that had considerably increased since the las es mate: on this account the esimate for the ensuing year would amount to somewhat more than the sum of nine millions. There was one circumstance which had swelled the estimate of 1798 above that of the preceding year, and that was the augmentation of pay to the army; and he apprehended, that was an increase which must continue. Besides, there was a number of regiments serving in Ireland, and now remaining there. Should it be continued, Ireland might here. after be called upon to contribute a part towards bearing that burden.

An augmentation had also taken place in the regiments of dragoons, which brought on an additional expense of 65,000l. Another of 39,0col. took place in consequence of the increase of the companies of foot guards from 100 to 120 men, and other troops. Another

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increase of expense was that of the
establishment of a number of regi-
mental paymasters: this was a plan
adopted after much consideration,
and he believed it would produce
much advantage to the public. The
expense attending this establishment
he stated at 27,000. per annum.
Another charge was owing to a pro-
vision made for a supplementary
militia, because that subject came
only partially before parliament last
year. There was another additional
charge also of about 100,000 l. on
the account of barracks. Another
head of charges which he had to
bring forward was entirely new,
and it was proposed that it should
be permanent: it was an increase
of about 12,000l. appropriated to
the enlarging of widows' pensions,
a description of persons whom he
conceived to be such as the com-
mittee would be glad to protect as
far as they could, with due regard to
public economy. Great care should
be taken to keep this within the
bounds of moderation; in no in-
stance was it higher than 30l. and
in some it was so low as 10 L. a year.
An additional sum was also to be
employed for the service of Jamaica.
And here he might have concluded
what he had to say, but something
which had passed before required
explanation, he meant the large
fees that were taken in some de-
partments of his office. A com.
mittee had reported against a con-
tinuation of them; and the whole
had been collected and thrown into
a mass, whereby a fund was created,
and out of it a new division was
made, and the salaries of the dif
ferent clerks regulated. He at that
time took the liberty of doubt
ing the wisdom of that measure;
he doubted whether it would pro-
duce in the sequel much saving to
the public. He had nothing now

to add, and therefore he should proceed to move the different resolutions, unless some gentleman should express a desire for further explas nation.

Mr. Tierney said, that whatever he might think his duty directed him to say, he should not oppose voting upon the estimates now; but although he said this, yet he could not help adding, that he was not a little mortified by the speech of the secretary at war. He could have conceived, that the advantages of our victories and our triumphs would have been immediately felt in the diminution of our expenses, whereas it appeared that some of them were increasing. The public had a right to say that the secretary at war had deluded them; for, last year, the danger of invasion operated upon the public mind, and much of the expense was incurred to provide against that calamity. Now the skill and valour of our gallant officers, and the steadiness of our men, had removed all fear with regard to invasion; and yet ministers held out no hope of any retrenchment, even in useless offi ces. He should not vote that night for the resolutions, but should wait till he was further informed, as it would probably happen the resolutions would remain for two or three days. He was sure that there was not a man who heard bin, who did not think there ought to be the severest œconomy in every part of the state. The gentlemen who had reaped the advantages of these enormous fees were to have an additional allowance, because the fees of last year had not been equal to the expense calculated by the committee, and allowed upon a new arrangement. He did not mean to insinuate that the secretary at war was interested in any of the fees;

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on the contrary, he believed his motives to be pure and honourable in all such particulars. But it appeared that a farther sum would be wanted to make up deficiencies in office, &c. and this after a full consideration of the matter, and a report made by a committee of ñnance. Sir John Sinclair expressed a wish to know if the report on the army estimates was to be taken into consideration on Monday next.

without delay. The resolutions were then put and agreed to.

On Monday December 3d, the house having formed itself into a committee, Mr. Hobart in the chair, the chancellor of the exchequer said, before he proceeded to open to the committee the very important subject to which their attention would in the course of the evening be directed, it would be proper for him previously to lay before it a general outline of the supplies, which would be necessary for the service of the current year. It must be obvious to the committee, that it was impossible now to produce that statement with perfect accuracy; but from the manner in which the different estimates were made, a general outline might be proved which would approach

The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, that as the discussion in the report might run into some length, it was his wish that it be taken into consideration on Tues day; especially as Monday was already fixed upon for considering an important measure of finance. The report of the other estimates he wished might be brought up on Monday, as they must be voted before he could open the ways and means of the year, which it was his intention to bring forward "Independently of the transport service, said Mr. Pitt, which has not yet been voted, but which I shall state at 1,300,000l. the sums voted for the navy, including 120,000 seamen amount to 10,720,000 7. making in all, under the naval department, ordinary and extraordinary

pretty near the truth. This statement must be founded upon a comparison with the expense of the same branches in former years.

For the army there had been already voted,
upon estimate

The extraordinaries last session amounted to
about 3,200,000 7. besides a vote of credit
for one million; but these sums would be
fully adequate to cover the extraordinaries in
the course of the year, and there would be
no arrears on this head. As no specific pro-
vision, however, was made for the vote of
credit, that article must come to be provided
for in the supply of this year ....
For the service of the year 1799, he imagined
the extraordinaries of the army would not
exceed the sum of

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There had that night been voted, under the
head of ordnance, the sum of

1,500,000

Carry forward, £. 26,983,000

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