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tographs and Daguerreotypes at the Gallery of the painted in their proper colours, and gilt, but now disSociety of British Artists, in Suffolk Street, with a figured by coats of dirty white."— Barber's Picturesque soirée on Tuesday evening last. Notwithstanding the Guide to the Isle of Wight, 1850, pp. 28, 29. inclemency of the weather, the rooms were crowded

J. M'K. not only by members of the Society, but by many of Shoreham. the most distinguished literary and scientific men of the metropolis. The Queen and Prince Albert had, Solar Eclipse in the Year 1263 (Vol. viii., in the course of the morning, spent three hours in an

P: 441.). — In the Transactions of the Antiquarian examination of the collection; and the opinion they Society of Scotland, vol. ii. p. 350., there are expressed, that the exhibition was one of great interest

“ Observations on the Norwegian Expedition and promise, from the evidence it afforded of the extraordinary advance made by the art during the past Dillon, Esq.; and at pp. 363–4, when speaking of

against Scotland in the year 1263,” by John year, and the encouragement it held out to the belief

the annular eclipse, he says: that far greater excellence might therefore still be looked for in it, was a very just one, and embodied that “ The eclipse above mentioned is described to have given afterwards by the most competent authorities. occurred between these two dates [29th July and 9th We have not room this week to enter into any details, August]. This being pointed out to Dr. Brewster, but can confidently recommend our readers to pay an he had the curiosity to calculate the eclipse, when he early visit to Suffolk Street.

found that there was an eclipse of the sun on 5th August, 1263, and which was annular at Ronaldsvo, in Orkney, and the middle of it was twenty-four

minutes past one." Replies to Minor Queries.

These “ Observations" contain much curious Firm was their faith,g-c. (Vol. viii., p. 564.); information ; but are deformed by the author

These lines are to be found in a poem, called attempting to wrest the text of the Norwegian "Morwennæ Statio, hodie Morwenstow,"pub- writer (at p. 358. and in note I.) to suit an absurd lished by Masters in 1846, with the title of Echoes crotchet of his own. Having seen that essay in from Old Cornwall, and written by the Vicar of MS., I pointed out those errors ; but instead of Morwenstow. I agree with D. M. in the judg: attending to my observations, he would not read ment he has announced as to their merits ; but them, and got into a passion against the friend hitherto they have been but little appreciated by who showed the MS. to me.

J. M'K. the public. A time will come, however, when these and other compositions of the author will

Shoreham. be better known and more duly valued by the English mind.


Lines on Woman (Vol. viii., pp. 292. 350. &c.).

The lines on Woman are, I presume, an altered These lines were written on “ the Minster of version of those of Barret (Mrs. Barrett BrownMorwenna," May, 1840, and appeared in the ing ?); they are the finale of a short poem on British Magazine under the anonymous name

Woman; the correct version is the following: Procul. Of the eight stanzas of which the poem “ Peruse the sacred volume, Him who died consists, P. M. has quoted the second.

Her kiss betray'd not, nor lier tongue denied'; second line should be read "wise of heart," and While even the Apostle left Him to His doom, the third " firm and trusting hands."


She linger'd round His cross and watch'd His tomb." correspondent, I hope the author's name may be I would copy the whole poem, but fear you discovered. F. R. R. would think it too long for insertion.

MA. L. Vellum-cleaning (Vol. viii., p. 340.). - In the [Our correspondent furnishes an addition to our Polytechnic Institution there are specimens of old list of parallel passages. The lines quoted by W. V. deeds, &c., on vellum and paper, beautifully and those now given by our present correspondent can cleaned and restored by Mr. George Clifford,

never be different readings of the same poem. Besides, 5. Inner Temple Lane, Temple, London.

it has been already shown that the lines asked for are J. M‘K.

froin the poem entitled Woman, by Eaton Stannard Shoreham.

Barrett (see antè, pp. 350. 423.).] Wooden Tombs (Vol. viii., p. 255.). - In the Satin (Vol. vii., p. 551.). — In a note just rechurch at Brading, Isle of Wight

ceived by me from Canton, an American friend of * There are some old tombs in the communion place, mine remarks as follows: and in Sir William Oglander's chapel, or family burial

" When you write again to 'N. & Q.' you can place, which is separated from the rest of the church say that the word satin (Vol. vii., p. 551.), like the by an oak screen. The most ancient legible date of article itself, is of Chinese origin, and that other these monuments is 1567. Two of them have full. foreign languages, in endeavouring like the Enlength figures in armour of solid elm wood, originally glish to imitate the Chinese sz-tün, have approxi

With your



mated closely to it, and to each other. Of this Attainment of Majority (Vol. viii., pp. 198. 250.). the answers to the Query given in the place re - In my last communication upon this subject I ferred to a sufficient proof; Fr. satin, produced undeniable authority to prove that the W. sidan, &c. &c."

law did not regard the fraction of a day; this, I I suspect that he is right, and that Ogilvie and think, A. E. B. will admit. The question is, now, Webster, whom you quote, have not got to the does the day on which a man attains his majority bottom of the word. I may add that the notion commence at six o'clock A.m., or at midnight? of my Canton friend receives approval from a We must remember that we are dealing with a Chinese scholar to whom I have shown the above question of English law; and therefore the eviextract.

W. T. M. dence of an English decision will, I submit, be Hong Kong.

stronger proof of the latter mode of reckoning than

the only positive proof with which A. E. B. has " Quid facies," gc. (Vol. viii., p. 539.). — defended Ben Jonson's use of the former, viz,

“ Bierve, N. Maréchal, Marquis de, a Frenchman Roman. well known for his ready wit and great facetiousness.

In a case tried in Michaelmas Term, 1704, He wrote two plays of considerable merit, Les Ré- Chief Justice Holt said: putations and Le Séducteur. He died at Spa, 1789,

“ It has been adjudged that if one be born the 1st of aged 42. He is author of the distich on courtezans :

February at eleven at night, and the last of January in • Quid facies, facies Veneris cum veneris ante ? the twenty-first year of his age at one o'clock in the Ne sedeas! sed eas, ne pereas per eas.'"

morning, he makes his will of lands and dies, it is a

Sulkeld, 44. ; ---Lemprière's Universal Biography, abridged from the good will, for he was then of age." larger work, London, 1808.

Kaymond, 480, 1096 ; 1 Siderfin, 162.

C. FORBES. In this case, therefore, the testator was Temple.

counted of age forty-six hours before the com, Sotades (Vol. viii., p. 520.).— Your correspon

pletion of his twenty-first year. Now, the law dent CHARLES REED says that Sotades was a

not regarding the fraction of a day, the above

case, I submit, clearly proves that the day, as Roman poet 250 B.c.; and that to him we owe the regards the attainment of majority, began at midline,“ Roma tibi subito," &c. Sotades was a native


RUSSELL GOLE. of Maroneia in Thrace, or, according to others, of Crete ; and flourished at Alexandria B.C. 280 · Lord Halifax and Mrs. C. Barton (Vol. viii., (Smith's Dictionary of Biography, Clinton, F. H., pp. 429. 543.). — In answer to J. W. J.'s Query, I vol. iii. p. 888.). We have a few fragments of his beg to state that. I have in my possession a codicil poems, but none of them are palindromical. The of Mrs. Conduit's will in her own hand, dated authority for his having written so, is, I suppose, 26th of January, 1737. This document refers to Martial, Epig. 11. 86. 2.:

some theological tracts by Sir Isaac Newton, in Nec retro lego Sotaden cinædum.” his handwriting, which I have. On referring to

ZEUS. the pedigree of the Barton family, I find that

Colonel Robert Barton married Catherine GreenThe Third Part of Christabel(Vol. viii., wood, whose father lived at Rotterdam, and was pp. 11. 111.). — Has the Irish Quarterly Review ancestor of Messrs. Greenwood, army agents. His any other reason for ascribing this poem to Maginn issue were Major Newton Barton, who married than the common belief which makes him the sole Elizabeth Ekins, Mrs. Burr, and Catherine Robert and original Morgan Odoherty ? If not, its evi- Barton. I find no mention of Colonel Noel dence is of little value, as, exclusive of some pieces Barton. The family of Ekins had been previously under that name which have been avowed by connected with that of Barton, Alexander Ekins, other writers, many of the Odoherty papers con Rector of Barton Segrave, having married Jane tain palpable internal evidence of having been Barton of Brigstock. The writer of this note written by a Scotchman, or at least one very fa will be obliged if J. W.J., or any correspondent miliar with Scotland, which at that time he was of “N. & 2.,” will inform him if anything is not; even the letter accompanying the third part known respecting an ivory bust of Sir Isaac of Christabel is dated from Glasgow, and though Newton, executed by Marchand or Marchant, this would in itself prove nothing, the circum- which is said to have been an excellent likeness. stances above mentioned, as well as Dr. Moir's

S. X. evidence as to the time when Maginn's contributions to Blackwood commenced, seems strongly is, we believe, in the British Muscum.]

[The ivory bust referred to by our correspondent presumptive against his claim. Some of the earliest and most distinguished writers in Black The fifth Lord Byron (Vol. viii., p. 2.). – I wood are still alive, and could, no doubt, clear up cannot but think that Mr. Hasleden's memory this point at once, if so inclined. J.S. WARDEN. has deceived him as to the “wicked lord” having

settled his estates upon the marriage of his son; Hobbie, Knight, was ever of the Privy Council ; how is this to be reconciled with the often pub- but, in 1539, one of the Gentlemen of the Privy lished statement, that the marriage of his son with Chamber to King Henry VIII. (which monarch his cousin Juliana, daughter of the admiral, and granted to him in 1546-7 the manor of Wilaunt of the late and present lords, was made not loughby in Edmonton, co. Middlesex), Sir Thomas only without the consent, but in spite of the oppo- Hoby, the brother, and successor in the estates of sition, of the old lord, and that he never forgave Sir Philip, was, in 1566, ambassador to France; his son in consequence ?

J. S. WARDEN. and died at Paris July 13 in that same year (not

1596), aged thirty-six. The coat of the Hohys of Burton Family (Vol. iv., pp. 22. 124.). --- In Bisham, as correctly given, is “ Argent, within a connexion with a Query which was kindly noticed border engrailed sable, three spindles, threaded in by Mr. Algor of Sheffield, who did not however fesse, gules." A grant or confirmation of this coat communicate anything new to me, I would ask

was made by Sir Edward Bysshe, Clarenceux, to who was Samuel Burton, Esq., formerly Sheriff of Peregrine Hoby of Bisham, Berks, natural son of Derbyshire ; whose death at Sevenoaks, in October, Sir Edward Hoby, Nov. 17, 1664. The Bisham 1750, I find recorded in the Obituary of the Gen- family bore no crest nor motto.

H. C. C. tleman's Magazine for that year? I am also desirous to ascertain who was Sir Francis Cavendish The Keate Family (Vol. viii., pp. 293. 525.)Burton of St. Helens, whose daughter and heiress, Should the Query of G. B. B. not be sufficiently Martha, married Richard Sikes, Esq., ancestor of answered by the extract from Mr. Burke's Extinct the Sikes's of the Chauntry House near Newark. und Dormant Baronetcies of Englund relating to She died since 1696. Both Samuel Burton and the Keate family, as I have a full pedigree of that Mrs. Şikes were related to the Burtons of Kilburn, surname, I may perhaps be able, on application, in the parish of Horsley, near Derby, to whom my to satisfy him with some genealogical particulars former Query referred. E. H. A. which are not noticed in Mr. Burke's work.

H. C. C. Provost Hodgson's Translation of the Atys of Catullus (Vol. viii., p. 563.). - In answer to Mr. Sir Charles Cotterell (Vol. viii., p. 564.). — Sir GANTILLON's inquiry for the above translation, I Charles Cotterell, the translator of Cassandra, beg to state that it will be found appended to an died in 1687. (See Fuller's Worthies, by Nuttall, octavo edition of Hodgson's poem of Lady Jane vol. ii. p. 309.)

“Αλιεύς. Grey.

Dublin. In the same volume will be found, I believe (for I have not the work before me), some of the Huc's Travels (Vol. viii., p. 516.).— Not having modern Latin poetry respecting which BALLIO seen the Gardener's Chronicle, in which C. W. B. LENSIS inquires. The justly admired translation says the travels of Messrs. Huc and Gabet in of Edwin and Angelina, to which the latter refers, Thibet, Tartary, &c. are said to be a pure fabriwas by Hodgson's too early lost friend Lloyd. cation, concocted by some Parisian littérateur, I The splendid pentameter is slightly misquoted cannot know what degree of credit, if any, is to by BALLIOLENSIS. It is not

be given to such a statement. All I wish to com“ Poscimus in terris pauca, nec illa diù.” municate at present for the information of your but

Querist C. W. B. is this, that I bave read an * Poscimus in vitâ,” &c.

account and abstract of Messrs. Huc and Gabet's THOMAS ROSSELL POTTER. Travels in one of the ablest and best conducted Wymeswold, Loughborough.

French reviews, La Revue des Deux Mondes ; in

which not the least suspicion of fabrication is Wylcotes' Brass (Vol. viii., p. 494.). - I should hinted, or the slightest doubt expressed as to the hardly have supposed that any difficulty could genuineness of these Travels. Mr. Princep, also, exist in explaining the inscription :

in his work on Thibet, Tartary, &c. quotes largely “ In • on · is · all."

from Huc's Travels, and avails himself extenTo me it appears self-evident that it must be sively of the information contained in them with * In one (God) is my all."

reference to Buddhism, &c. H. C. C.

Should the writer in the Gurdener's Chronicle

have it in his power to prove the Travels to be a Hoby, Family of ; their Portraits, g-c. (Vol. viii., fabrication, he will contér a benefit on the world p. 244.). — I would refer J. B. WHITBORNE to of letters by unmasking the fabricator.

J. M. The Antiquities of Berkshire (so miscalled), by

Oxford. Elias Ashmole; where, in treating of Bisham, that learned antiquary has given the inscriptions to Pictures at Hampton Court Palace (Vol. viii., the Hoby family as existing and legible in his time. p. 538.). - In reply to o.'s question when the It does not appear that Sir Philip Hoby, or review of the Toth Light Dragoons by King

George III., after the Prince of Wales assumed any biographical notice of Grindling Gibbons-to the command of that regiment, I beg to state that whom the story of the “Sow and Pigs" relates. the Prince entered the army as brevet-colonel, Gibbons was recommended to Sir Christopher by Nov. 19, 1782; that the regiment received the Evelyn, I think ; but not having " made a note of title of "The Prince of Wales's own Regiment of it," I am not sure that it is to be found in his Light Dragoons" on Michaelmas Day, 1783: that Diary. If there be any monograph Life of the regiment was stationed in the south of England Gibbons, it can scarcely fail to be found there. and in the vicinity of London for many years,

M. (2) from 1790 to 1803 inclusive; and that King George III. repeatedly reviewed it, accompanied

Souvaroff"s Despatch (Vol. viii., p. 490.). by the queen and the royal family. That the Souvaroff*s doggerel despatch from Ismail, imPrince of Wales was appointed Colonel-command- mortalised by Byron, is, as usual, misspelt and ant of the corps in 1793, and succeeded Sir w. mistranslated. Allow me to furnish you with what A. Pitt as colonel of it in July 18, 1796. That I have never yet seen in English, a correct version the regiment was reviewed on Hounslow Heath

of it:

“ Slava Bogou, slava Vam; by the King in August, 1799 ; and the Prince of

Krépost vziala, ee ya tamn." Wales (who commanded it in person) received his Majesty's orders to convey his Majesty's ap

“ Glory to God, glory to You, probation of its excellent appearance and per

The fortress is taken, and I am there." formance. Perhaps the picture by Sir William

DMITRI ANDRÉEF. Beechey was painted in 1799, and not 1798. I did not find the catalogue at Hampton Court free

Detached Church Towers (Vol. viii., p. 63.). — from errors, when I last visited the palace) in In the lists I have seen no mention is made of the October, 1852.

M. A. fine tower of West Walton Church, which stands Pembroke College, Oxon.

at a distance of nearly twenty yards from the body of the church.

W.B. D. John Waugh (Vol. viii., pp. 271. 400. 525.). Lynn. Does KARLEOLENSIS know whether John Waugh, son of Waugh, Bishop of Carlisle, was married, Historical Society of Pennsylvania is in possession

Queen Anne's Motto (Vol. viii., p. 174.). - The and to whom ?

Farther information of the above family would of an English coat of arms, painted on wood in be most acceptable, and thankfully acknowledged, the time of Queen Anne, baving." Anna R.” at by George Waugh, of the family of the Waughs the top, and the motto Semper eadem on the scroll of Oulton and Lofthouse, Yorkshire.

below. It probably was in one of the Philadelphia Exeter,

court-rooms, and was taken down at the Revolution.

UNEDA. Daughters taking their Mothers' Names (Vol.viii., Philadelphia, p. 586.).— When BURIENSIS asks for instances of this, and mentions “ Alicia, daughter of Ada," as

Lawyers' Bags (Vol. vii. passim). - The an example, is he not mistaking, or following some communication of Mr. Kersley, in p. 557., alone else who has mistaken, the gender of the though it does not support the inference which parent's name? Alicia fil. Adæ would be ren

Col. LANDMAN draws, that the colour of lawyers' dered “ Alice Fitz-Adam," unless there be any bags was changed in consequence of the unpoputhing in the context to determine the gender larity, which it acquired at the trial of Queen otherwise.

J. SÅNSOM. Caroline, seems to show that green was at one

time the colour of those professional pouches. ! " Service is no Inheritance" (Vol

. viii., p.586.). The question still remains, when and on what This proverbial saying has evidently arisen from occasion it was discontinued; and when the purthe old manorial right, under which the lord of ple, and when the crimson, were introduced ? the manor claimed suit and service and fealty When I entered the profession about fifty before admitting the heir to his inheritance, or years ago), no junior barrister presumed to carry the purchaser to his purchase. On which occasion, a bag in the Court of Chancery, unless one had the party admitted to the estate, whether pur- been presented to him by a king's counsel ; who, chaser or heir, "fecit fidelitatem suam et solvit when a junior was advancing in practice, took an relevium ;” the relief being generally a year's opportunity of complimenting him on his increase rent or service,

Axon. of business, and giving him his own bag to carry

home his papers. Sir Christopher Wren and the young Carver

It was then a distinction to (Vol. viii., p. 340.). - If your correspondent A. H.

carry a bag, and a proof that a junior was rising bas not already appropriated the anecdote here [* See Evelyn's Diary, vol. ii. pp. 53, 54., edition alluded to, I think I can confidently refer him to 1850.--Ev.]

in his profession. I do not know whether the Arms, A.D. 1615. To be printed in tables on folio, with same custom prevailed in the other courts. the arms engraved on wood, price One Guinea ; or

CAUSIDICU3. large paper, royal folio, Two Guineas; or large paper

with the arms emblazoned (of which only the number In this city (Philadelphia) lawyers formerly subscribed for will be done), Five Guineas. Subscricarried green bags. The custom has declined of bers' names will be received by Mr. John Gray Bell, late years among the members of the legal pro- No. 17. Bedford Street, Covent Garden. fession, and it has been taken up by journeymen The first number of the Antiquities of Shropshire, by boot and shoe makers, who thus carry their work the Rev. R. W. Eyton, lias just been issued for the to and from the workshop: A green bag is now sake of determining the author's doubts as to whether the badge of a cordwainer in this city. UU. there is any general wish for such a publication. Should Philadelphia.

the answer be in the negative, the author will neither

forget his obligation to present subscribers, nor the exBust of Luther (Vol. viii., p. 335.). – MR.J. G. planation which he will farther owe them if the work Fitch asks for information respecting a bust of be discontinued. The work will extend at least to five Luther, with an inscription, on the wall of a house, voluines, or twenty parts, and, according to the present in the Dom Platz at Frankfort on the Maine. i plan, will be completed in not less than five years. have learned, through a German acquaintance, Any subscriber will be at liberty to withdraw his who has resided the greater part of his life in that after the publication of any fourth part, or completed

name, by giving notice to that effect within one month city, that the effigy was erected to commemorate volume. Three hundred copies of Part I. have been the event of Luther's having, during a short stay printed, but the number of the future parts will be in Frankfort, preached near that spot; and that limited to those subscribed for within the next three the words surrounding the bust were his text on months. the occasion. He adds that Luther at no period The Surrey Archæological Society propose holding the of his life " lived for some years” at Frankfort, as Inaugural General Meeting of the Society in Southstated by Mr. Fitch.

ALFRED SMITH. | wark early in the month of February, and to exhibit

upon the occasion a collection of such objects of antiGrammar in relation to Logic (Vol. viii., quarian interest relating to Surrey as may be conpp. 514. 629.). - H. C. K.'s remarks are of course tributed for that purpose. Parties are invited to favour indisputable. But it is a mistake to


that the Society with the loan of such objects. they answer my Query. In fact, had your cor Books Received.- A Peep at the Piries, or Legends respondent taken the trouble to consider the of the West, by Mrs. Bray: written for the entertainmeaning of my Query, he could not have failed to ment of a family circle, these amusing records of the perceive that the explanation I there gave of the doings of the little people will find favour with all function of the conjunction in logic, is the same

lovers of folk lore. — Ada's Thoughts, or the Poetry of as his. My Query had sole reference to grammar.

Youth, may be commended for its natural, simple, yet I would also respectfully suggest

that anonymous

elevated tone. — Essay on Human Huppiness, by C. B. correspondents should not impute “superficial Adderley, M.P.; the first of a series of Greut Truths

A set of little books similar in views,” or any other disagreeable thing, to those for Thoughtful Hours. who stand confessed, without abandoning the object and design to Pickering's well-known series of

Small Books on Great Subjects. Beauties of Byron, pseudonym. C. MANSFIELD INGLEBY.

Verse and Prose. This selection, made for Murray's Birmingham,

Railway Reading, will be acceptable to many who would object to place the collected edition of the noble

bard's writings in the hands of the younger members Miscellancous.

of their family. - Speeches on Parliamentary Reform, by

the Right Hon. T. B. Macaulay. This new number NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.

of Longman's Traveller's Library is well-timed, and Mr. Timbs announces for publication by subscription, very acceptable. Curiosities of London : exhibiting the most rare and remarkable Objects of Interest in the Metropolis. Mr. Timbs states, the authorities for his work have been

BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES four-and-twenty years in collection; and that the ut. most pains has been taken to verify names, dates, and

ISAAC TAYLOR'S PHYSICAL THEORY OP ANOTHER LIPE. circumstances, so as to insure accuracy. In this labour the author has been aided by the communications of " Letters, stating particulars and lowest price, carriage free,

to be sent to MR. BELL, Publisher of many obliging friends, as well as by his own recol QUERIES." 186. Fleet Street. lection of nearly fifty years' changes in the aspects of Particulars of Price, &c. of the following Books to be sent “ opulent, enlarged, and still increasing London." direct to the gentlemen by whom they are required, and whose It is proposed to publish by subscription The Visit.

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JUNIUS DISCOVERED, by P. T. Published about 1789. chard St. George, Esq., Norroy King of Arms, and

Wanted by IWilliam J. Thoms, 25. Holywell Street, Millbank, Henry St. George, Esq., Blue Mantle Pursuivant of




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