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Vote of credit, including 800,000l. for Ireland
Mifcellaneous (England) including
40,000l. for fervices not yet voted

2,500,000

617.000

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266,000

883,000

400,000

Irish permanent grants

Joint charge for England and Ireland 38,703,000
Add England feparate charges.

Toulonefe fhips

265,000

Deficiency of malt duty

115,000

American awards

412,000

Exchequer bills, V. C. 1803

1,500,000

2,292,000

Total fupplies 40,995,000

Deduct on account of Ireland as below 4,711,652

On account of England 36,283,348 Exchequer bills on aids 1804, to be replaced by a like amount

on aids 1805.

'Per act 43 Geo. III. cap. 36. part of 4,000,000l. 3,000,000

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2-17ths of the above fum of 38,703,000l. are to be contributed by Ireland

Add for Ireland 2-17ths of 1,346,0431. for civil lift and other charges on the confolidated fund not relating to the public debt

4,553,294

158,358 £ 4,711,652

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He next called the attention of the Committee to the importance of carrying on, with the utmoft vigour, the execu tion of a fyftem of which experience had demonstrated the practicability, and evinced the beneficial effects. For this purpose, he recommended an addition of 1,000,000l. per annum to the war taxes; which he propofed fhould be raised by increafing the duty of excife on wine to the extent originally intended, of 201. per ton; taking, however, 19 guineas only, as more convenient for calculation: and this, he obferved, would give no pretence to the dealers for an increase of the retail price, as he believed it had been univerfally raised last year to an extent fully proportioned to the total duty. This would amount to about 200,000l. The remaining 800,000l. he proposed to raise by another addition of 12 per cent. upon the confolidated cuftoms, except thofe on exports and tonnage, and on the articles of wine, tea, and cotton wool. On the article of raifins only he should propofe a double rate, as a fubftitute for an increase of the duty on fweets, which had ufually accompanied an augmentation. of the wine duty.--He next adverted to the loan contracted for the fervice of the prefent year. He ftated, that he had that morning entered into a contract for a loan of 14,000,000l. for the fervice of the united kingdom; of which fum

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10,000,000 was to be provided for by Great Britain. The terms on which he had engaged were, to give for every 100l. in money, 100l. 3 per cent. reduced, and 821 3 per cent. confolidated annuities. The e terms might be confidered as fair, and even advantageous to the public, and at the fame time likely to prove profitable to the contractors, The rate of intereft would be 51. 9s. 31 per cent. amounting to 546.000l.; to which, adding the allowance for m n gement, and a finking fund of 1 percent. the total annual charge would be 736, 1901. This charge he propofed to provide for by a confolidation and fimplification of the ftamp duties, which were now extremely intricate and embarraffing, with fome addition to the prefent rates of duty. The ftamp duties might be divided into three principal branches: thofe on proceedings in courts of law, thofe which were applicable to inftruments for the transfer and fecurity of property, and thofe applicable to commercial transactions. In the first of these branches an intricacy and confufion prevailed, which often embarrassed the moft skilful practitioners; and in the fecond, a very unequal preffure was occafioned by applying the rate of the duty, not to the value of the property transferred, but to the length of the inftrument by which it was conveyed. He hoped, in the new arrangement, to remove the obfcurity and difficulties which had been found fo vexatious to the parties interested, and to render the burthen of taxation more equal, by applying to feveral other inftruments, the fame principle of progreffive increase, according to the value of the property, which had been introduced with great fuccefs into the probate duty. After a fhort recapitulation of his statements, he again impreffed upon the Committee the urgent neceffity of carrying the fyftem which had been adopted into the mott complete effect. For this purpose, he hoped the war taxes, at their prefent amount, would be found fufficient; for he could not confider the immenfe military expenditure rendered neceffary in the prefent year, by the extenfive preparations for our defence, as likely to continue to an equal amount. The fums voted for ordnance, volunteers, and barracks, in the prefent year, exceeded the grants for the fame fervices, in either of the two last years of the late war, by more than 4,500,000l. on account of the extraordinary amount of arms and clothing provided for the volunteers, and of the numerous buildings carried on by the barrack department, the whole of which had been provided for in the fupplies lately voted. Deducting this excefs of 4,500,000l. which he confidered as occafional,

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occafional, from the amount of the lean, it would appear that an efficient war establishment migh be maintained with a loan of 7,000,0 vol. eftimating the war taxes at no more than their probable annual amount. But even fuppofing these extraordinary expences to be fucceeded by others to an equal extent, the addition of 1,000,000l. annually to the war taxes, according to the plan of the present year, would, in the course of about three years, if the war thould continue fo long, raise the amount of the public income to fuch an extent as to leave a fum to be provided for by loan not greater than would be furnished by the finking fund: from which period it was evident that the nation might perfevere in the profecution of the war with a diminishing inttead of an increafing debt.

The question was then put on the first refolution, and agreed to.

Mr. Fox then rofe, though confcious of the irregularity of adverting to the subject in the Committee, to put a queftion to the right hon. Gentleman oppofite. A noble Lord high in his Majesty's fervice, had stated in another place (the House of Lords), that reafons exifted, fufficient, in his opinion, to render it improper to difcufs questions of import ance, which might lead to a difference of opinion at prefent, in confequence of which an expected difcuffion had been poftponed. As he had himself given notice of a motion for Wednesday, on a fubj &t of very confiderable importance, he withed to know whether the fame confiderations applied to difcuffions in that Houfe. It would be for the convenience of Gentlemen to be informed on this head, and if the cafe were fo, he should not be difpofed to prefs his motion for a few days.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer replied, that the confideration to which the hon. Gentleman had adverted, undoubtedly applied to any motions in that Houfe, of a defcription to lead to difcuffion, and a difference of opinion. He therefore hoped, as the hon. Gentleman feemed not unwilling to defer his motion. that he would abftain from bringing forward any queftion of that nature, and on the part of his Majefty's Government affured the Houfe, that they would equally avoid bringing forward any measure that might lead to fuch difference of opinion.

Mr. Fox acquiefced in the with to have his motion put off for a few days, but hoped the time would be short, and VOL. 11. 18-3-4.

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claimed priority for his motion when the exifting reafons for delay fhould ceafe.

Lord Levifon Gower expreffed a with, that his Majesty's Ministers should defer the third reading of the army of referve fufpenfion bill, which ftood for the next day, as that was a question that would neceffarily lead to a difcuffion, and a difference of opinion.

Mr. Secretary Yorke confented to put off the third reading of that bill, but trufted the Houfe would feel no objection to proceed with the confideration of the Lords' amendments to the volunteer bill on Wednesday.

Lord Porchefter, on the fame grounds with Mr. Fox, put off his motion (relative to difpatches to the Governor of the 'ifland of Ceylon), which stood for Thursday next.

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Mr. Calcraft was alfo defirous to wave for a few days the motion of which he had given notice, relative to an additional allowance for pay and clothing of volunteer corps trufted, however, that the right hon. Secretary would not perfift in his wish to proceed with the confideration of the Lords' amendments to the volunteer corps bill, because that was a measure precifely of the clafs, which would be likely to lead to ferious difcuffion.

Mr. Secretary Yorke had no wish about it at all.—(A laugh.)

The other refolutions were then agreed to, and the House having been refumed, the report was ordered to be received the next day, and the Committee to fit again on Wednesday.

The House went into a Committee on the report of the petition of his Grace the Archbishop of Dublin. The report to be received the next day.

Mr. Vanfittart moved, that there be laid before the House an account of the drawbacks allowed to common brewers, under the 42d of the King, diftinguishing the quarters. Ordered. The other orders of the day were then difpofed of.— Adjourned.

HOUSE OF LORD S.

TUESDAY, MAY 1.

Counsel was heard for the refpondents in the Chancery appeal Richardsons v. the Universities of Oxford and Cam

bridge.

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