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either in the Speech or Motion, the cover that they had shewn no ConJess Time will be necessary to confi cern for the Ballance of Powver, that der them; but let both be as clear their Negligence or their Blunders and intelligible as possible, it is rea had been the Occasion of the late fonable that those Lords who heard War, and that both thc Security and nothing of the Speech till they heard the Commerce of these Kingdoms had it in this House, should have some been thereby brought into the utmost Time to consider it, before they be Danger ; I must beg of your Lorddesired to give their consent to any ships to consider how inconfiftent Answer that can be made to it. it would look for this House to

With respect to the Consequences come to any such Resolutions, after of what we may happen to inserc in having at the Beginning of the Sefour Address, or the Effect it may fion agreed to the second Paragraph have upon our future Proceedings of the Motion now before you : And considering how precipitately we are upon such an Occasion would not like to agree upon an Address, I this apparent Inconsistency be made could almost evilh it were a Thing Use of as an Argument, would it not of as little Imporcance as it has been be a prevailing Argument againft represented; but, my Lords, while your coming to any such Resolutions this House preserves its Honour and But this is not all; the Address of Dignity, while this Nation preserves this House, as long as we preserve its Freedom, the Address of this any Character or Respect in the NaHouse will always be of great con- tion, will always have a great Effect sequence, and will have a great Ef upon the Minds of the People, and feet, 100 only upon our own future will in some Measure in Auence the Proceedings, but upon all the Affairs Proceedings of the other House : of the Nation; nay, upon all the Nay, my Lords, it will have an Ef. Affairs of Europe in general. We fect upon the Conduct of all the are not, indeed, under


absolute Princes of Europe, and may induce Neceflity of conforming in our future them to come into such Measures as Proceedings to every Thing contain may be highly prejudicial to the Ined in our Address of Thanks for his terest of this Nation, and such as Majesty's most gracious Speech from cannot be recalled or remedied by the Throne; but still it must be any fueure Resolution of this House. granted that what we lay in our Ad. With Respect to our Conduct in the dress, has an Effect upon our future | Interval of Parliament, foreign PowProceedings, and has been often made ers may perhaps look upon it as the Use of as an Argument agaiuft our Conduct of our Ministers, and not agreeing to Propositions afterwards of the Nation; and for that Reason made, because of cheir being repug. they may fufpend entering into any nant to what we had said in our Ad. Measures, or coming to any Refolu. dress,

tions to our Prejudice, till the meetWe all know, my Lords, that the ing of the next Seslion of Parliament ; Compliments made to his Majesty up- but if they then see the two Houses on any such Occasion, are generally of Parliament complimenting his Maunderstood to be compliments made jesty's Ministers, and approving of all to his Ministers; and if in this Sef- they had done, they will then begin hon we should enter upon an Inquiry to look upon our past Conduct, as into the Conduct of his Majesty's Mi- the Conduct of the Nation, and will rifters, we thoiud from thesice dir- immediately take their Measures or

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their Resolutions accordingly. We Thing, even the fmallest Village, to
have it, 'cis trie, in our Power to thar Crown, is a Step towards over-
depart from our Address by a filtüre turning the Balance of Power ; but
Resolution ; but after the Resolutions the Addition of such a populous and
of foreign States are taken, after they fertile Province as the Dukedom of
have conicerted their Measures, we Lorrain, is certainly a most wonder-
cannot make them depart from such ful Stride.
Measures or Resolutions by any future I am surprised to hear it said, that
Resolution of ours; and thus, by an France acquires n10 new or additional
ill-timed Compliment to his Majesty, Strength by the Surrender of Lorrain.
or rather to his Ministers, we may 'Tis true, The generally took Possef-
involve our Conntry in great Diffi- fion of it at the Beginning of a War;
culties, and bring it to the urmoft but as that Country was generally

render'd desolate by the War, the could Peace, my Lords, is certainly a reap little Benefit by it during the most desirable Thing ; but it is not continuance of the War; and upon a always more defirable thair War: If Peace fhe was always obliged to reat the End of King William's Reign, store it : Then again, while that we had thought a Peace at any Rate Durchy continued in the Poffesion of morë defirable than Wär, not only its own Princes, and was a part of this Nation, but perhaps the greatest the Empire, it was a Barrier for all Part of Europe, would long before that part of the Empire ficuate be. now have been Slaves to France : We tween it and the Rhine ; because the ought not therefore to be fo extremely feizing of any Place of Lorraiu by busy with our Congratularions upon Frana, was always look'd on as a the pleahog Prospect of approaching Declaration of War, by which the Tranquillity : We ought first to exa- Princes of the Empire were alarmed, mine what sort of a Tranquillity we and had some Time to put themselves are like to have, and what the Confe- upon their Guard : But Lorrain being quences of it may be : I fhall readily given up to France, its Towns will agree with the noble Lord, that the immediately be strongly fortify'd, and Balance of Power was lately in great numerous Garrisons kept in them, by Danger of being involved in a bloody which France will be cnabled to surand expensive War ; but I cannot a prise and take Poffeflion, whenever gree with his Lord thip in thinking, the pleases, of all that part of the that in either Case the Danger is quite Empire beriveen Lorrain and the Rhine; over. On the contrary, I think the fo that all that Part of the Empire Balance of Power is brought into will from licnceforth be in the fame more Danger by the Peace, than it Condition that Lorrain formerly was ; was by the War; because, if the War and if Lorrain was before to be look: had continued, it was in our Powered on as a Part of the Kingdom of to have recover'd it from that Danger France, because įe was in her Power whenever we had a Mind; but it to take Poffefliou of it whenever she will not be in our Power whenever pleased; we must for the faine Reason we have a Mind, to take Lorrain conclude, that from henceforth the from France, or to get the Emperor, County of Deux Ponts, a great Part Poland, and Mufcovy, to join with of the Electorate of Treves, of the us in that Undertaking; and as France Electorate of the Prince Palatine of was before an Over-match for any the Rhine, of the Bishoprict of Spiers, Power in Europe, the Addition of any of the Bishoprick of Worms, and se


veral other Estates of the Empire, are peror and France, but are we included to be looked on as Part of the King in that Peace : There were before sedom of France ; and therefore may veral Bones of Contention between us hereafter be without any Jealousy ab- and France, as well as Spain, and I solutely surrendered to her, if ever am afraid they are 110 Way diininishthe Doctrine · should prevail, that ed by our late Conduct. If by our there is 910 Difference between a vio- powerful Squadrons we set Limits to lent Poseflion, and a rightful undi- the Designs of France and her Allies sturbed Poffeflion. But even with re in Italy, or made France give up the spect to Lorrain itself, the rightful un-Affair of Poland; if by our Preparadisturbed Poffesion of it will add vaft- tions we prevented the King of France. ly to the Power of France ;

for even

from establishing his Father-in-laiv on during the Contima!ice of War, tho' the Throne of Poland, or the King France had Poffellion of the Country; of Spain from establishing his Son in she possessed none of the Revenues; the Dukedoms of Tuscany, Parma, these having almost alıvays been pof- and Placentia ; can we expect that sefred by the Dukes of Lorrain ; these Disappointments will be easily whereas the Revenues will be nowy forgiven or forgot? And in case these much improved by its being no lon Powers should make up the little Difger the seat of War, and will belong ferences at present subsisting between to and be levy'd by France both in them, and should join together in orTime of War and in Tiine of Peace; der to revenge themselves upon us, are from whence we may with a great we fire of the Emperor for an Ally? deal of Probability conclude, that a Have we by our late Conduct laid him yearly Sum of at least 500,300 luder any Obligations of Honour or Sterling will be added to the Revenue Conscience to fly to our Alistance of France by the Accession of Lorrain; or upon what else does our Security and as by the Situation of Lorrain, depend? When to these Questions, my the Frontiers of France will be con- Lords, I have receiv'd a satisfactory, tracted, rather clan enlarged, which | Answer, I Mall be ready to acknowwill prevent her being obliged to keep ledge, with the greatest Gratitude, up any greater Land Force than for the tender Care of his Majesty's Mimerly, we may presume that this vifters for his Majesty's People, in whole Sum will be employed yearly preserving co them the Bleflings of touraids increasing and keeping up her Peace ; and to declare that I fee with Naval Armaments; and how a Peace, Pleasure in our present Situation, the which may lo probably increase the happy Effects of the extraordinary, Naval Power of our greatest and most Supplies of late Years granted by Para dangerous Rival, can be called a plea- liament. fing Prospect to Great Britain, I I have, my Lords, as great an Ocannot fo readily comprchend. From pinion of his Majesty's Wisdom and these Conliderations, I must leave it Conduct, as any Lord in this House ; to your Lordships, whether we ought but for the Wisdom and Conduct of to burst out in such Raptures of Joy, his Ministers, I have not, perhaps, on the pleasing Prospect of approach the same Efteem that some others may ing Tranquillity.

have ; and fisice his Majesty's WirNow, my Lords, let us see ḥow dom and Conduct can never be brought we stand with Respect to our own in Question here, since it is the WifSecurity and Commerce : A Peace is dom and Conduct of his Ministers concludeil, 'lis crue, between shę Em only can come uder our Considera,

rion, I have treated the Subject the your Support in the Pursuit of these mure freely. I shall always be fond great Ends; so you may always deof seeing a juft and crue Harmony pend on my peady Perseverance in between his Majesty and his People, such Mea feres, as may most effectually as well as his Parliament ; for unless ) promote and secure the Eafe, Com. the Harmony between King and Par merce, and Prosperity of my People. liament be founded on a Harmony be. tween King and People, we can nei The principal Speakers in the above ther expect to meet with Trust or Con Debate for the Amendment to the fidence from our Allies, nor can we Morion were, the Earls of Sexpect to spread Terror and Dread and C -d, and the Lords Camong our Enemies. Thus, my Lords, and B-; and the principal SpeakI have taken Norice of what I take ers against it were, the Duke of N, to be amiss in the Morion now before che Lord H.

the Lord H_, &c. you ; I shall 1100 insist eicher upon delaying the Consideration of this His Majesty's Speech having been Marrer, or upon any particular A. read by Mr. Speaker in the House of mendment ; because, from what I Commons, snF-*, Esq; stood have said, the Committee, who shall up, and after a fhort Speech in Praise be appointed to draw up the Address, of his Majesty's Conduct, and his will be able to rectify the Motion great Concern for the Ease and Happiand I hope they will take Care to do ness of his People, in preventing their it in such a Manner, as that the Ad being engaged in the late War, he dress may be unanimously agreed to. made the following Motion : To re

solve, “That an humble Address should The Question was then put, whe i be presented to his Majelty, to rether an Address should be made to his turn his Majesty the Thanks of that Majesty on the foregoing Motion, House for his most gracious Speech and it being resolved in the Affirma from the Throne : To express their tive, without any Division, and or (most grateful Sense of his Majesty's der'd accordingly, a Committee was continuec! Labour ad Endeavours appointed to draw it up; who re to restore the publick Tranquillity, cired immediately into the Prince's and his particular Care therein, to Chamber, and having drawn up an avoid involving this Nation inneAddress, it was reported and agreed to cessarily in the endless and fatai the same Evening, and presented the Consequences of a general War: To next Day to his Majesty by the House congratulate with his Majesty upour in a Body, to which his Majesty re the happy Turn which the Affairs turned the following most gracious ' of Europe had taken, ly their ImAnswer.

perial and Most Christian Majesties

liaving agreed to Preliminary ArMy Lords,

'ticles for a general Pacificarion, and Return you Thanks for this dutiful upon the great Probability there

and a fe&tionate Address. Nothing appeared to be, of their being accan give me so fenfible a Pleasure, as cepted and agreed to by all the Powe ihe Satisfaction you few in my Endea ers engaged in the War: And to vours for the Repose of Europe, and declare (from the Asurances which the Care I have taken of the Peace his Majesty had been graciously and Welfare of my Kingdoms. As 1 pleased to give them, that those rely, with the greates Confidence, on < Preliminaries did not effentially va

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ry from the Plan of Pacification Amendment proposed; only

WM concerted and proposed by his Ma Sbm, Esg; and W-P-, Esq;

jefty and the States-General; from took Notice of that Part of it relara juft Confidence in his Majesty's ting to the Reduction of his Majesty's • Goodness, and the Experience they Forces, and said, They hoped some

had of his constant and paternal whole Regiments would he reduced, < Care of the true Interests of his and not a Number of private Men • People, through the whole Course only, as had been formerly practised

of this great and intricate Work ; upon the like Occasions ; for that the and from his Majesty's having de reducing of a whole Regiment would

clared, in Conjunction with the always be a much greater Saving to “ States, his Approbation of the said the Nation, thau the reducing an ' Preliminaries, as proper Conditions cqual Number of private Men; and

of a general Pacification ;) That in our present melancholy Circumthey could make 10 Douler, but scances, every Method ought to be they were such as would give a practisel, by which the publick Mogeneral Satisfaction : To return his ney might be saved, in order to apply Majesty their most dutiful Thanks as much as poflible yearly, to the

for his early Care in casing the Payment of our publick Debts. ' Burthens of his people, and redu That the Advantage of making the • cing a considerable Number of his intended Reduction by reducing whole « Forces both by Sea and Land; and Regiments, was apparent to every

to assure his Majesty, that they Gentleman who would be pleased to would, with great Cheerfulness, make the Calculation ; for by the Eraise the necessary Supplies : And stablishment of last Year, a marching

to testify the Gratitude with which Regiment, which consisted of 815 their Hearts were filled, from a Men, cose the Publick about 15,2174 1.

juft Sense of the Blellings they then yearly ; so that if a whole Regiment enjoy'd, and from the Prospect of should be reduced, there would be a future Happiness: That they would Saving of 15,2171. a Year to the fupport his Majesty in fuch Mea Publick; whereas, if an equal Num

sures, as should be found reasonable ber of private Men only Thould be < and necessary to render that great reduced from that and other Regi( and desirable Work perfect and last ments, there would be a Saving to . ing.

the Publick of the Pay of so many His Motion was seconded by Ches private Men only, which in a Year W-s H-, Esq; who like amounted to but 7427 l. from whence wise made a short Speech in Praise of it was evident, that if a Reduction

of 8000 Men should be made by the sing Prospect they then had of the reducing of whole Regiments, the future Happiness of this Nation. The Pullick would save 149,3691. yearLord T

-/ likewise spoke in Fa ly; whereas, when a Reduction of vour of the Motion, and made many 8000 Men is made, by the reducing Encomiums upon the Peace that bad of private Men only, the Publick Leen obtained, as being a more safe, faves but 73,000 l. yearly ; so thac a more honourable, and a more glo the Difference to the Publick was a rious Peace, than it was posible for Saviug of 76,369.. yearly, more in us to expect.

the one Case chan in the other; which There was in this House no OL was a very considerable Sum, a Sajection inade to çhe Motion, nor any ving which ought 2005 to be neglected,


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