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and only find what exactly accords with Dr. Cure we purchased in our childhood were far superior ton's notes, but in a shorter form. The Syriac of to those of modern manufacture. F. C.H. the Martyrs of Palestine gives us the name of READERS (3rd S. vii. 109.) — The office is deValentina's companion three times : first in the scribed at large, with the declaration which title to the section, and afterwards in a passage Readers have to sign since the Reformation, in which Dr. Cureton thus rendered:

Burn's Eccles. Law, sub tit., and in Hook's Church “ He caused both the young women, Hatha and Valen- | Dictionary.

E. MARSHALL. tina, to be bound together, and gave sentence against Sandford. them of death by fire. The name of the first was Hatha, and her father's house was in the land of Gaza ; and the

Weever, in his Funeral Monuments, p. 127, ed. other was from Cæsarea, our own city; and she was well 1631, says,known to many, and her name was Valentina.”—P. 30. Readers, quos Pastores (à pasco) nominatos putat

I need scarcely say, that this justly represents Ambrosios, matutino tempore Prophetarum Apostolothe Syriac text. With regard to the passage in rumque scripta legebant, ac populum divinis lectionibus

quasi pascebant. Which Saint Ambrose supposeth to be the Greek, where the word ådenpå occurs, it dif called Pastours by the Apostle Paul: did rede the writings fers from the Syriac; in which no such idea is of the Prophets and Apostles, at the time of morning conveyed, at least not in similar diction. I need prayer, and did feede, as it were, the people with such not repeat the Greek which your correspondent divine lessons."

J. H. S. has quoted, but I copy Dr. Cureton's rendering of the Syriac which answers to it:

“For A YEAR AND A Day" (3rd S. vii. 116.) “ Then, at that time of terror, the noble maiden showed S. inquires the origin of the above phrase. In the courage of her mind and gave the altar a kick with English it is as old as the thirteenth century, at her foot, and it was overturned; and the fire that had least, for it occurs in Magna Charta ; by which it been kindled upon it was scattered about," &c.—P. 29.

is declared thatI venture to append as literal a translation as I “ The King do not hold the lands of them that he concan make of this sentence :

victed of felony longer than a year and a day (“Nisi per “ Then the noble maiden, in that time of fear, the

unum annum et unum diem'), after which they shall be

restored to the lord of the fee. courage of her mind displayed ; and kicked the altar with her foot, and it was overturned, and the fire that upon it

But the use of the phrase is probably antecewas burning she scattered."

dent to this : for as Magna Charta was not a new The late—alas, that it must be said !—the late legislative creation of the reign of King Johnlearned Canon has stumbled at the last word; but but consists, at least in part, of re-enactments he has not made the mistake ascribed to him by from earlier laws, Norman, Saxon, or British — the reviewer, who cannot have carefully read the this article may probably be traced to a prior date. passage.

B. H. C.

From feudal associations, one would conjecture

that it was Norman; but Barrington, in his 06STREET MELODY: “ Young LAMBS TO SELL servations on the more Ancient Statutes, points out (3rd S. vii. 118.)-I well remember this cry in that an equivalent French law omits the “one Birmingham full sixty years ago; and the seller day," and gives the king possession only for the must have been the old sailor described by Hone year—"pour la première année;" whilst he quotes in his Table Book, p. 397, or rather by some cor from the Danish law an instance, in which the respondent, as the article bears the signature of an term of the “year and the day asterisk. But I also recollect seeing the old soldier, agricola domum reliquerit, vicini per annum et William Liston, who followed up the trade of the diem, quo minus destruatur, custodiant” (p. 15). old sailor. This was in Northampton, about forty The precise period of a year and a day is fixed years ago; and I distinctly recollect his peculiar for other purposes in the statute of Gloucester in appearance with his wooden leg, iron hook for a the reign of Edward I., and in many laws later right hand, and his remarkable way of crying his than Magna Charta. Barrington suggests that "Young lambs to sell.” He first gave a prelude the "addition of the day to the year may have of a few bars without words, of which I could not been made with a view to prevent all disputes convey an idea without musical notation; and about inclusive and exclusive" (ib.). Was it for this served to collect boys and girls about him, a similar reason that a youth's majority has been and excite attention. Then came his cry, fixed at twenty-one? so as to be absolutely certain “ Lambs to sell,

that he had attained twenty. Young lambs to sell ;

Amongst the natives in some parts of India, If I'd as much money as I could tell,

the number of blows legally inflicted for certain I never would cry: Young lambs to sell,

offences, is thirty-nine: being the "forty stripes Young lambs to sell." **

save one,” which St. Paul complains that he had This was his cry, as I remember it. I quite so frequently received from the Jews. Has this agree with MR. ROFFE that the “Young lambs” precise figure been fixed on to ensure that the

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punishment shall'not be excessive, by keeping the Rational Illustration of the Book of Common Prayer number of lashes under forty ?

of the Church of England, the following passage There is an oriental air about the addition of occurs at p. 64, and refers to the Venerable the unit, especially when the numbers are large, Bede: that reminds one of The Thousand AND ONE Nights “ His learning and piety gained him the surname of of the King Shahriyar, and recalls the dreamy Venerable. Though the common story which goes about stories of the Princess Shahrazade.

that title's being given him, is this : his scholars having J. EMERSON TENNENT.

a mind to fix a rhyming title upon his tombstone, as was

the custom in those times, the poet wrote, QUOTATION WANTED: “On! WHY WER'N'T YB

HAC SUNT IN FOSSA, CTXNING," ETC. (3rd S. vii. 56.)— These lines form a portion of a song called “The Widow MoGra." Placing the word ossa at the latter end of the verse for I have never seen it in print, but it runs thus:

the rhyme, but not being able to think of any proper

epithet that would stand before it. The monk being ** If ye'll listen to me now, without any fun,

tired in this perplexity to no purpose fell asleep; but Sure I'll tell ye how the war begun :

when he awaked, he found his verse filled up by an anBut of all the wars, both great and wild,

gelic hand, standing thus in fair letters upon the tomb; There was that betune widow McGra and her child !

Musha tooral loo, &c.

“ Now if Teddy would list, the serjeant said,
That soon a captain he'd be made;

I look on this passage as a literary curiosity, With a fine long soord, and a big cocked hat,

the style and punctuation of which are alike • Arrah! Teddy, my child, wouldn't you like that?' worthy of each other. I should hardly have liked Musha tooral loo, &c.

to send up such an exercise “ Then Teddy be fought his way through Spain,

“At Merchant Taylors' School, what time And to the Indies back again

Old Bishop held the rod.”
And the hundreds and thousands that he kilt,
Sure a mortial volume might be filt!

I remember at a Divinity Examination at Ox-
Musha tooral loo, &c.

ford more than twenty years since being furnished

by the Examiner with the following paper: * Then Widow McGra waited on the shore, For the space of seven long years and more

“State what you know of the History of the 'Till she saw two ships sailing over the say,

Venerable Bede.”

My answer was that, “His Crying, 'Phililu, hubbaboo, whack, clear the way!' learning and piety had rendered him conspicuous, Musha tooral loo, &c.

and the epithet of Venerable’ was probably & Then Teddy he lighted on the strand,

conferred upon him for that reason, but certainly And Widow YGra seized him by the hand;

not on account of his advanced age, as he died in But after she had given him a kiss or two,

his sixty-second year.” My venerable Examiner, Sez she, Teddy, my child, this can't be you!' Musha tooral loo, &c.

being then but forty-five years old, may have ** Arrah! my son Teddy was straight and trim,

taken my answer as a sly compliment to himself, And had just one leg to every limb;

as I was ordained very high up in the list of canArrah! my son Teddy was straight and tall,

didates for Priest's Orders in a few days after my But the divil reçave the leg have ye got at all!' examination. Musha tooral loo, &c.

One question remains to be asked-If the monk **Oh! why wern't ye cunning, and why wern't ye cute ? were asleep when the epithet “venerabilis was And why didn't ye run away from the Frenchman's added to the inscription, how could he be certain shoot?

that the verse was "filled up by an angelic To think that I my child should call

hand?” A nan, who couldn't stop the force of a French cannon

EIN FRAGER, M.A. Oxon. ball!'


ENGLISH PROVERB (3rd S. vii. 114.) – **Bat a thundering war I will proclaim Against the King of the Frinch, and the snuffy ould

“ To be Jack on both sides; “Coser a dos cabos,' Queen of Spain :

Span. 'Allotpobarros, a turncoat, a weathercock."And I'll make them sorely to rue the time,

Ray's Proverbs. That ever they shot off the legs of a child of mine !'

E. MARSHALL. Musha tooral loo, &c."

Sandford. The first two lines of each verse are sung twice SUPERSTITION OR SYMPATHY, WHICH ? (3rd S. cyer. I have heard the song sung more than vi. 496; vii. 45.) - That gifted and admirable Fenty years ago by poor Johnstone, the scene man, the late Dr. George Wilson of Edinburgh, painter of the Adelphi, and never by any one thus describes his own sensations subsequent to

John PAVIN PHILLIPS. the amputation of his foot: Haverfordwest.

“I have no feeling of the want of a foot, and seem still SESEBABLE BEDE (3rd S. vi. 358, 401, 480.) –

to feel toes, great and small. John Cairns * thinks this In the edition published in 1848 of Wheatly's

* The Rev. Dr. Cairns of Berwick.

p. 301.

must arise from a pre-ordained harmony between the soul undergraduates did not pretend to judge, but like and body!!! Well done, John !”-Memoir by his Sister, the Dons in Common Room, sometimes perpetu

ated wretched puns upon their names, over our A recent American writer, in a very curious and wine and walnuts; e. 9., The weakest go to the objectionable book, says:

Wall; the Bourne from whence no traveller re“Within the corporeal frame there is another body,

turns--were the post prandial jokes of unfledged constituted of more ethereal elements, and an imperishable scholars with gooseberry beards. The Fellows, organisation. It is a curious fact, that persons who have old grey-beards, confined themselves to Attic wit lost a limb always have an internal consciousness that

from the Greek and Latin classics. Bos PIGER has the body is still complete. Although an arm or a leg may have been amputated years before, and its decomposed omitted to mention a contemporary professor with elements scattered to the winds and waves, the indivi- Bourne and Wall, the late Sir Christopher Pegge, dual still feels that the lost member is with him, and who had the good fortune to be dubbed, at the sustaining its proper relations; and his sensation extends same time with Sir Edward Hitchins, a knight of to the very extremity, almost as perfectly as when the

the thimble, in the presentation of a loyal address limb was there. This may seem incredible, but the fact from the city of Oxford. On their return from suffered the loss of one or more of their members. The London, Sir Edward was proud of the royal sphere of their conscious existence is never circumscribed honour conferred upon the mayor; not so Sir by this partial destruction of the body. From this sig- Christopher. His new title did not settle comnificant fact we can only infer that the individuality of fortably on the stomach of the professor. llis man does not belong to his body, but, on the contrary: appetite began to fail; his clothes (made by stitution.” – Dr. S. B. Brittan, Man and his Relations, Hitchins) hung loosely about him; he could get pp. 574, 575.

no sound sleep when he went to his bed; his meDr. Kerner tells us that Madame Hauffé, the dical brethren, Wall and Bourne, were called in,

and consulted long and thoughtfully on the seat Seeress of Prevorst,” when she saw people who

of the disease. It was beyond doubt their patient had lost a limb, saw the limb still attached to the

was a peg too low from some nervous affection. body; that is, she saw the nerve-projected form

From whence did it arise? They determined to of the limb.

call in Grosvenor to help them in council. When “From this interesting phenomenon,” he adds, “we

the “Rubber” obeyed the call, post haste, of his may, perhaps, explain the sensations of persons who still have feeling of a limb that has been amputated : the in

medical brothers, both of them anxiously, exvisible nerve-projected form of the limb is still in con claimed, “What is your opinion ?” The Rubber, nexion with the visible body.”

with a look not to be mistaken, whispered in a Fancy or fact, which ? one at least of your slow and solemn tone"night-mare. readers is disposed to ask. W. MAUDE.

QUEEN'S GARDENS. Birkenhead.

LUNATIC LITERATURE (3rd S. vii. 120.)— In DIGHTON'S CARICATURES (3rd S. iv. 410; vii

, justice to our American friends I would refer your 119.)—Bos PIGER has furnished you

with several

readers to Mr. Sala's “Echoes of the Week,” in racy anecdotes of the medical practitioners at Ox the Illustrated London News of Feb. 11, in which ford in the early part of this century. May I be he entirely refutes the statement that one of the allowed to fill up his line,

principal New York papers was edited by a lunatic. “ Optat ephippia bos piger, optat arare caballus.”

EDWARD C. DAVIES. As a scholar at Alma Mater in their day, I was

Cavendish Club. well acquainted (happily not as a patient) with XIMENES, ETC. (3rd S. vii. 102.) — The arms these doctors

, and remember their professional of Cardinal Ximenes were chequy or and gu. phizzes, dress, &c. Grosvenor sported à venerable

In Goussencourt, Martyrologe des Chevaliers de powdered pate, and wore a blue coat with brass Malthe, Paris, 1643, tome ii. p. 257, the arms of this buttons, the correct thing in that day for an elderly family are blazoned correctly; but the engraving. surgeon. Dr. Bourne, on the contrary, clad him- would make the tinctures arg. and gu. Very few self in a sober suit of brown, with a neat brown

indeed of the engravings, either in this work or in wig to match, and carried a gold-headed cane in

Favyn's Théâtre d'Honneur et de Chevalerie (Paris, his hand. Dr. Wall, another eminent medical, 1620), have the hachures in accordance with the was attired pretty nearly after the same fashion of blazon : and that Favyn knew nothing of the the time. Ex uno disce omnes. In the Vista, system at present in use is proved by his speakwhen the two doctors chanced to walk in High ing with praise of the German method of indicatStreet, they realised the description of family like- ing the tinctures by small initial letters, as in ness, often quoted from Ovid,

Siebmacher's Wappenbuch, &c. He says (tome « Qualis decet esse sororum,

ii. p. 1797): – Non eadem facies omnibus, una tamen.”

" Il y pouvoit demonstrer les couleurs, et Metaulx du Of the skill in these learned practitioners we moins, ce qui luy estoit assez aisé de faire, s'il cognoissoit

o admirable et


37S. VII. MARCH 4, 65.] (Doctes et Curieux en Armes s'il y en eut jamais) se ser* Façon que nos Graveurs devroient imiter, et ensuivre. under the came of Smyrnon ; but the usual botani- thern Circuit but once, and that was in 1758; NOTES AND QUERIES.

gentille dont les Alemans situate his “small country house in Herefordet sçavoit la

shire;" but I should like a reference to the par

ticular volumes of the Gentleman's Magazine bonnementales leres qui leur servent de Marques et de pieces by his hand.” The date of his death should Les Alemans (dis-je) representat l'arme d'une gentil- which contain "several satirical poems and like Sotes pour representer les Metaux et Blasons de l'Escu, also I think be furnished. I don't press for the les Cimers , Lambrequins et Supports," &c. &c. J. WOODWARD.

name of “the squire of the parish” to whom allu

sion is made, inasmuch, as by giving it, a clue Nem Shoreham.

might be afforded to the identification of its In answer to LELIUS, as to the coat of the drunken vicar. Will MR. ALLBUTT pardon my Cardinal, I am afraid I shall only increase his observing that, unless he is more specific and predifficulty instead of helping him; as he will find cise, the claim of his great grandfather to the a third coat assigned, differing from either of the authorship of “The Vicar and Moses ” will hardly two he mentions. In the frontispiece of the Missa be considered as well made out ? S. Y. R. Gothica seu Mozarabica, published at “ Angelopoli,

I heartily thank MR. T. CLIFFORD ALLBUTT for MDCCLIX.," the arms are given, with the tinc his interesting information of the author of the tures marked as chequy or and azure ;


favourite old song, “The Vicar and Moses.” Resertation upon them in Latin and Greek, with a

ferring to my former communication on the diftranslation into Spanish.

W. A. F. A.

ferent versions of it (2nd S. iii. 178), I find I have SOLICITOR AT GOLDSMITHS' HALL (3rd S. vii. there mentioned a new song on the same subject 42.)- Commissioners for compounding the estates of my own composition. I fear it would not be of the cavaliers sat at Goldsmiths' Hall as well as admissible into “N. & Q." on account of its at the Haberdashers'. A list of those from whom length, as it contains twenty-two verses; but any fines were forced will be found reprinted in Mor- intimation from the editor in the “Notices to Corgan's Phaner Britannicus. Dr. Grey, in his Notes respondents” to the contrary would at once induce to Hudibras (pt. I. c. iii. 1. 878), quotes a cava me to send a copy, though it has never yet

travelled lier song which declares.

out of the author's possession.

F. C. H. “Our money shall never indite us,

BATTLE OF LEIPSIC: ROCKETS (2nd S. viii. 537; Nor drag us to Goldsmiths' Hall:

3rd S. vii. 43.)— How is it this weapon appears to So pirates nor wrecks can affright us, We that have no estates,

have fallen out of use? It seems to have done the Pear no plunder nor rates,

greatest service at Leipsic and at Waterloo, and We can sleep with open gates ;

yet we hear nothing of it in the struggle in the He that lies on the ground cannot fall."

Crimea, nor in that now going on in America. It It is probable that the passage in Cowley al- would be very interesting

if some military engineer laded to the solicitors who practised before the would enlighten us on the point. From all accommission?


counts, the rocket seems to have been peculiarly CHEVISAUNCE (3rd S. vii. 114.)—Spenser else- terrible to cavalry.

A. A. where uses this word in the sense of an achieve

Poets' Corner. ment, performance, or acquisition. It is derived DAVISON'S CASE (3rd S. vii. 80.) - In the case from the French ' verb chevir, which means to related in the Story Teller, the murder was commaster, or overcome. Hence I think it most pro- mitted by “prussic acid," and the prisoner was buble

that the name of chevisaunce Was given to tried on the Northern Circuit by Lord Mansfield. the herb masterwort, which, though now fallen The existence of prussic acid is recorded to have inte disense, was formerly cultivated in gardens

, been discovered in 1709, and it was first obtained The German apothecaries call it Ostericium or As- retirement of Lord Mansfield from the bench. 1 i trencin : Dioscorides (bk. iii

. ch. 17) describes it do not find that his lordship ever took the Nordently borowed from the German Meisterwerz. name Masterwort is evi- familiar with the matter, whether murder by

prussic acid was known “in the last century." I

F. C. H. have been under the impression that no such case "THE VICAR AND MOSES ” (2nd S. ii. 112; 3rd S.

was ever tried in this country till the present 2. 125.) Mr. ALLBUTT's communication is inter- century had been more than a quarter gone.

J. C. sting and curious, and would be valuable were it les vague. Are we to understand that the great THE INSCRIPTION ON THE CROSS (3rd S. vii. 75, grandfather of his own name had the Christian name 143.)-The oldest post-biblical copy of this in{T. Clifford? There is perhaps some reason for scription which I remember, is in the book of supressing the name of the parish in which was Antoninus Martyr, De Locis Sanctis, about A.D.

trantu. Our English

570. This writer says he saw the title, which was supremacy. The Greek Church does not acknow. placed above the head of Jesus ; and upon it was ledge the validity of the Anglican Orders. Copious written : “Jesus Nazarenus Rex Judæorum.” He information on the Greek Church may be had by says he held it in his hand and kissed it, in the consulting the great and learned work, La Perpechurch of Constantine at Jerusalem (sec. 20). He tuité de la Foi; which gives professions of faith, is silent in reference to the Greek and Hébrew. definitions of synods, liturgies, and ecclesiastical The most recent article upon the subject is in the records, in abundance. Much information may be Sunday at Home for 1864, p. 804. I may remark derived also from Bergier's Dict. de Théologie, and that, in one MS. of Antoninus, the reading is Bell's Wanderings of the Human Intellect. “Hic est Rex Judæorum ;” and that there is con

F. C. H. siderable diversity in Greek MSS. of the Gospels

The best and fullest account of the Greek as to the words employed by Pilate. The actual Church in our language, I believe, is the Rev. J. order of the languages cannot be determined, and Mason Neale's History of the Holy Eastern Church the question is rather curious than important. (Masters or Rivington, I think). G. G. will proFor a description of the title, as shown at Rome, bably find there what he wants. LYTTELTON. see Severano, Memorie Sacre delle Sette Chiese di

Hagley, Stourbridge. Roma (Rome, 1630), p. 626. This title was found in 1492, and is mentioned by writers soon after. An article, entitled “The Greeks of the Greek

B. H. C. Church in London,” by William Gilbert, appears “MUNGO” (3rd S. vii. 135.)— Was not the term

in the number of Good Words for the present " mungo” given to a low class of woollen goods month. I think it will prove interesting to G. G., in consequence of the manufacturer, when the bad and afford him the information he requires.

C. K. quality of them was pointed out to him, saying: * Well-well—there they are, and they mun go;" LIMEHOUSE (3rd S. vii. 35, 121.) — May I quote

mun go” being a provincialism for ' must go ": the following from An Account of Millwall, pubmeaning thereby, that they must be sold at any lished in 1853 ? sacrifice, rather than not be sold at all ?

“ In behalf of the common derivation of this name, we Hence low rubbishy woollens have taken the

may quote Mr. Pepys. In his Diary under date, October name of “mungos.”

J. B. C. 9, 1661, we find the following: - By coach to Captain

Marshe's at Limehouse, to a place that hath been their I cannot help G. G. to the origin of the term

ancestors' for this 250 years, close by the lime-house which mungo,” as applied to shoddy, or devil's dust; gives the name to the place. The lime-house is there to but I can inform him that the name “mungo" is this day, and also a house, which, if I mistake not, is applied, in the north of Ireland -- and, for aught I either the same, or occupies the same site, as the one menknow, in Scotland also-to an alkaline liquid used

tioned by Mr. Pepys. John Stow, a man possessing far

more of the spirit of an antiquary, and who made such for cleansing linen yarns. . What the mungo is

things his particular study, adopts the view that Limecomposed of I have no notion; but I can answer house is a corrupt spelling for Lime-host, or Lime-hurst ; for it that it is useful for cleansing other things the latter of which denotes a plantation or a place of besides yarn: since when, boy like, I had my

lime-trees. John Norden, in 1592, rather earlier than hands covered with thick dirt, I have often made Stow, gives the more usual explanation, and, as we have

seen, refers to the lime-kilns.

These lime-kilns are very them perfectly clean and white by simply wash

ancient, and must have existed for 450 years." ing them in a vat of mungo in a friend's mill.

The referênce to Limehouse by Norden men

tioned previously seems to be the insertion of the GREEK CHURCH (3rd S. vii. 134.) – I will keep name in his map. (See the Account of Millwall

, &c., clear of all controversy in a brief reply to the inquiries of G. G. As to the precise relation of the pp. 12, 108.) There is a good plan of Limehouse

in Gascoyne's Survey of Stepney, 1703 a large Greek Church to the Roman Catholic: it is the map of the old parish of Stebonheath. The plate relation of a schismatical and heretical church, comprising the Limehouse section was a few years entirely separated from her communion. It is só

since at the Town Hall of the parish, and I have in consequence of its denying the Procession of the Holy Ghost from the Father and the Son, and This is what I was told on the spot.

an impression (modern of course) taken from it.

B. H. C. maintaining that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father only; and also, from its denial of the S. DECHARMES, LONDON (3rd S. vii. 133.) – Pope's supremacy. In every other article of faith, Mr. Simon De Charmes, the eminent watchthe Greek Church agrees with the Roman Ca- maker, flourished about the beginning of the last tholic, believing in the same seven sacraments, the century. He built a house at Hammersmith, mass, purgatory, &c.

which is now called Grove Hall (at present unocAs to the precise relation in which the Greek cupied). The estate contained about twenty-five Church stands to the Church of England, it agrees About 1730 his son, David De Charmes, with it in one only point--the denial of the Pope's resided here, and was buried in the churchyard,

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