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“ Emo Park, March 19, 1817. of each new bishop, it is to be remem. “SIR,- I have been prevented from bered, that the grounds upon which the sending an answer to your letter of the expediency of it was principally urged, 8th instant, in consequence of my not was the captivity of the pope by Bonahaving received it for some time after parte; and it is, therefore, to be preit arrived here.

sumed, that, as the pope was now free, “On, the subject of the resolutions they who were dvocates of this parti. which it contains, I do not hesitate to cular plan, upon their view of the subsay, that I have never been able to dis. ject, will no longer continue in pressing cover any good reason for connecting it. with the restoration of the catholics to “They who demand the veto, for the their civil rights, a change in the esta avowed purpose of extending the influblished practice of appointing the ca- ence of the crown, propose a measure. tholic bishops. During the greater the most hostile to the constitution; part of the last century, while the and it may, with reason, be suspected, Stuarts still claimed the legitimate that they put forward the influence of: right to the throne, the pope actually the pope as a formidable evil, merely as appointed every bishop, and yet no a pretext to lead public opinion to be in trace could ever be discovered of any favour of giving the crown a new acIrish catholic being concerned in the cession of power, by the means of the rebellions of 1715 and 1745. Lord transcendent influence of the catholic Castlereagh, and Mr. Elliot, who, in clergy over those who profess the catho1798, were the principal Irish ministers, lic religion. The report of the commit have repeatedly declared in the house tee of the house of commons, concern. of commons, that the conduct of the ing the regulations of foreign states,upon catholic bishops contributed very mate which they chiefly rest their case, affords rially to the suppression of the rebel- no precedent, but such as a nation, jea. lion of that year; and no one now pre-lous of its liberties, ought to avoid and tends to say, that a single exception can deprecate, for it appears from the hisbe made to the several appointments tory of these countries, that just in prothat have taken place since that period. portion as the several sovereigns of EuBut, if there did exist any such cause rope were successful in their encroachof alarm from the pope virtually pos- ments upon the liberties of their suh.. sessing the absolute, i hough now nearly jects, they deprived the clergy of their obsolete power of appointing the bishops, established right of electing their bithis objection to emancipation is fully shops, and usurped the power of pomimet by the offer made by the catholics nating to the see of Rome, the better to the legislature of an arrangement, by to extend and confirm the despotism which the pope shall no longer possess of their governments. that pawer; but in place of il, shall “ It is worthy of observation, that, merely have the right to give canonical up to this moment, the question of ecinstitution to the person who shall, in clesiastical arrangements has never been the first instance, have been elected as the subject of a separate or full discus. fit to be a bishop by the parochial sion in parliament. The report of last clergy of the vacant diocese.

session will necessarily lead to an exz By the plan of domestic nomina- tended examination of it in all its beartion, the ancient practice of the first ings, and the catholics may therefore ages::of the christian church will be reasonably expect, that, in the result, restored; the pope will be deprived of the jealousy of the power of the crown the means of doing any injury to the on the one hand, and the acknowledged state, through the intrigues of foreign good effects of the catholic religion on influence, and he will also be deprived the other, upon the public morals, will pf the means of rendering the influence have their proper influence in producing of the crown, through the interest of a fair and unobjectionable arrangement. the British minister at the court of “Whatever may be the partiality of Rome, the preponderating influence, some individuals for this or that partias it sometimes has been, in the future ticular measure, there does not exist appointment of the bishops.

any reason for not placing full confiIn respect to the plan of giving dence in the justice and liberality of the crown å veto, upon the nomination I both houses of parliament; they will

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listen to all objections that can be made to the noble lord, whilst Mr. Grata to the plan of the veto, and as they tan was passed over in silence.--It cannot but respect the feelings of the is impossible to convey an idea of catholics, and duly appreciate the value the enthusiasm which his lordship's of the catholic religion, in governing letter and conduct excited. The the conduct and morals of the great catholic population of the country, they county of Clare reckons a popula. will not adopt this measure, if after a tion of 200,000 catholics, and not a solemo discussion of it, it shall prove solitary voice was heard in favour of to be more likely to excite new dis- the veto. content, than to promote the fair object of legislative interference, the perfect

The following Extract of a letter conciliation of the people of Ireland. I from an intelligent young gentleman, have the honour to be, sir, your most at present in Rome, to one of the obedient servant, HENRY PARNELL." most respectable characters in Cork, To Sir Thomas Esmonde, Bart, &c.is copied from the Cork Mercantile

Chronicle :On the 15th inst. the Catholics of

“Rome, Feb. 22, 1817." the county of Clare held an aggregate “ As to catholic politics and Irish meeting, which was most numerously ecclesiastical affairs, things seem attended, and honoured with the quite at a stand here. They think presence of a great number of pro- they have gone as far as they ought. testant gentlemen of wealth and con- On the former I shall just mention sequence. The meeting was held in to you the words of the pope to the chapel of Ennis, the galleries of Brougham, which the master of the which were graced with an assem. ceremonies, a known vetoist, and blage of female rank and beauty ne- who was present, repeated to me. . ver before witnessed on such an oc- 'I have given the letter from Genoa, casion.--As the veto question is said his holiness) because I could coósidered to bear a double aspect, not help it? the king of Prussia has religious as well as political, it was by usurpation a puwer in the elecjudged best to express the detesta- tion of bishops, which I never would tion of the meeting to it, by a combi- or will grant to the king of Engnation of the church and the people. land; but as I am obliged to tole

lo consequence, the venerable rate this in Prussia, I could not bishop of Killaloe, Dr. O'Shaugh- help granting the letter I did to Dessy, was requested to take the chair, my best friend England. But to which he reluctantly consented, in when I gave that letter from Genoa, deference to his inexperience in the I never intended to oblige the Irish etiquette of public meetings.-Reso- catholics to act under it, and inlutions were ananimously passed, deed I BELIEVE IT WOULD condemning the veto in the strongest BE BETTER THEY DID NOT.' ternas, and declaratory of their de- I think something with regard to termination to resist any species of domestic nomination may be deemancipation which should be direct. cided upog at the next consistory, ly or indirectly coupled with that which will be held next month. The abominable measure.

- The letters German baron who was coming from Lord Donoughmore and Mr. here as Ambassador from the king Grattan were read to the meeting of Hanover, had arrived at Milan, The former was received with enthu- / when he received orders to repair siastic acclamations; the latter not to London for further instructions, only with coldness, but with strong it is presumed on Irish affairs." marks of indignation. A motion of The Morning Chronicle of the thanks was carried by acclamation 28th inste states, that Sir John Cox Hip

pisley moved, in the house of commons on cause of the London Mission Fund, the preceding evening, that an address be and on the Charitable Sisters, that presented to his royal highness the Prince Regent, praying bis royal higliness would

most excellent society in which the be graciously pleased to lay before the works of mercy both corporal and house, copies and extracts of all dispatches spiritual are continually practised. relative to foreign nomination, which may The effect produced by the perhave been received as respecting the catholics. In moving this address, he observed, suasive eloquence of our venerable that be trusted that the information convey. bishop is most,consoling, for notwithed by the several official dispatches (which standing the distresses of the times was the object of his motion) might tend to counteract the mischievous impressions of collection was the largest ever made

aod the poverty of the district, the the most gross and unfounded representations, which from time to time were made in that chapel. in anuther part of the united kingdom. Persons desitous of becoming subHe thought this was a fit occasion for him scribers to the above excellent into allude to a letter, stated to be written by a roman catholic priest, a Mr. Hayes, stitutions, are requested to apply to from Rome, containing the most unwar. the chaplains, Virginia-street; M. ranted assertions respecting himself (Sir J. Sidney esq. treasurer, Star and Garmuch for the noble viscount at the head of ler-yard, Patcliff-highway; or to Mr. the department for foreign affairs, whom

D. Gibson, secretary, No. 53, Rathe did not now see in his place. In factcliff-highway. these assertions of Mr. Hayes were wholly On the same day a sermon was false. He had little doubt but an honour preached by the Rev. Mr. Mac Donnell, at able and learned gentleman under the gal- St. Aloysius's chapel, Somer's town, for the lery could say nearly the same in relation

benefit of that establishment, which is unto a paragraph circulated in most of the der considerable pecaniary difficulties, public papers, relative to his communica

when the collection amounted to 3öl. tions, as there stated, with the sovereign pontif. The practice of imposing upon trick's day, a pontifical mass was cele.

On the 17th instant, being St. Pa. the understandings and feelings of a very large mass of his majesty's subjects was but brated by the right rev. Dr. Poynter, at too prevalent, and had already produced the chapel dedicated to the illustrious the most 'serious evils, to endeavour to ap apostle of the Irish nation, in Suttou-street, ply a remedy to which was the object of Soho-square. - Immediately after the gosthe present motion. To this motion he felt pel, the rev. Mr. Devereux delivered a very perfectly assured that none would dissent. impressive discourse to a large congrega - Motion agreed to.

tion, after which a collection was made A letter from Milan, dated March for the support of the chapel, which pro

duced 531. 8th, states, that the church of St.

On Low Sunday next, the veneraAmbrose, at Genoa, has been re

ble vicar apostolic, of the London district stored to the Jesuits.

will preach a Sermon at the last mentioned 3. On Sunday, March 9th, a sermon chapel in behalf of those excellent and was preached in Virginia-street cha- well managed institutions, St. Patrick's

charity schools and asylum for Female Ora pel, by the right rev. Dr. Poynter, for phans, when we fervently hope the noble the benefit of the charitable insti- feelings of charity in the audience will be lution for educating and clothing commensurate to the pious intentions, the poor catholie females in the East pathetic sympathy, and the persuasive elo

quence, of the amiable and benevoleat London district. The learned pre- guardian of the little unfortunates clothed, late delivered a most eloquent and educated, and boarded by these' establishimpressive discourse from the follow ments. ing text : “ Whosoever shall receiv

The anniversary dinner for the last one such little one in my name receiv- named institutions, will be at the Freema

son's tavern, Great Queen-street, on Thurse eth me,” Matth. 18th chap. and 5th day, the 17th instant. when his royal high: In the course of the sermon,

ness the Duke of Sussex will honour the his lordship took occasion to bestow company with his presenee, and fill the

chair. a well earned eulogium on the gen. ERRATA, page 104, for 'Litchfield, read tlemen who exert themselves in the

Lichfield.
W. E. Andrews, Priuter, Garlick Hill, Thames Street.

verse.

ORTHODOX JOURNAL,

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CIVIL AND RELIGIOUS LIBERTE NOT those of their puritan ancestors, now OBTAINED BY THE REFORMATION. know, in part, the efficacy of those

law which were enacted by their THE MODERN REFORMERS TASTING forefathers to persecute and oppress THE EFFECTS OF THE INTOLERANT their catholic brethren, whose only

THEIR ANCESTORS offence was that of differing from TOWARDS THE PAPISTS.

them in speculative points of docF the complaints raised by our trine, and adhering to the genuine

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against the measures resorted to by If the modern réformers complain their opponents to suppress the force that the personal liberty of every of public opinion have any founda- Englishman is now at the mercy of tion in justice, how much greater a secretary of state, let them rem reason have the fatholics of this collect that it was their ancestors country, but Ireland more especi- who introduced the precedent, by ally, to complain of the injustice wresting the privileges of the condone to them by the ancestors of stitution from every catholio wha these enlightened disciples of cosmo- would not forswear his conscience, politism and universal liberty. Yet, and become a traitor to his God. notwithstanding the page of history Let them recollect, that their ancese is stained with the most iniquitous, tors, under the banners of evangeliunjust, and merciless acts on the cal liberty, made liberty of consci, part of the puritan faction in the time ence high treason against the state, of the Stuarts, no orator or writer of when exercised by a catholic, and the present day can harangue or encouraged informers, by the luce endite on the subject of civil and re- of a participation in the property of ligious liberty, without extolling the the luckless offenders, to search deeds of these bigotted fanatics, with the eagerness of a blood-hound which they would fain persuade their for their prey, and fill the goals of hearers or readers were noble strug- England, which, till then, were only gles in the glorious cause of free considered the receptacles for thieves dom, when, in fact, their whole and abandoned characters, with the procedings bear the mark of intole innocent victims of conscientious in rance, oppression, and vandalism. tegrity.--If the modern reformers But the hand of divine vengeance is complain that undue uplifted, and the present race of re taken to suppress public opinion and formers, whose prejudices against the freedom of the press, let them reevery institution that savours of ca- member that their ancestors, in the tholicity are evidently as strong as time of the first Stuart, passed a law

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which subjected every house in the lical liberty, who framed laws to kingdom to domiciliary visits, for deprive them even of this consolathe purpose of searching for English tion, and constrain them to reside in popish books, which, when found, a country where they were sure to were to be burnt, and the individual meet with violence and cruelty.whose property they were, fined And now we behold some of the deforty shillings. If they complain scendants of these matchless strugthat sham plots are hatched up by glers for liberty, forsaking their natheir opponents, and crimes laid to tive soil to avoid the heavy burthens their charge, of which they are not imposed on their purses to meet the guilty, let they not forget that it exigencies of the state, or the re-was by forged plots, and those of strictive laws lately passed to rethe most infamous nature, that their strain the licentious effusions of their ancestors justified the enactment of mind. A month has scarcely elapsed that sanguinary code which dis- since the celebrated Mr. Cobbett, graces our statute book, and con- the powerful writer on political 10signed so many innocent individuals pics, but the ignorant and prejuto the knife and the halter. If they diced descanter on religious facts, further complain, (in reply to the found it necessary to quit his counarguments advanced by their oppo- try and his friends, because he could nents, that the laws, though strong, pot enjoy that freedom of communiwill be exercised with discretion cating his sentiments to the public and mercy by the executive,) that which his admired ancestors, in their there is no security now left to the poble struggles to maintain the cause subject to insure him against the in- of religious liberty, denied to the justice or oppression of a corrupt professors of that' faith, the minisministry, or a jealous political anta- ters of which Mr. C. is so much in gonist, let them bear in mind, that the habit of bespattering with his the merciful dispensation of the pe-unjust censures, for their imposing nal laws, in favour of the catholics, restrictions on the minds of their formed one of the greatest charges flocks. It will be well for this gen. brought against the Stuarts by their tleman, now he is gone to the only ancestors in the noble struggles” free country on earth, to reflect a litthey made in behalf of religious li- tle upon the history of his own coun). berty, and was the principal cause try since the period of the reformaof bringing one monarch to the block, tion, so called ; to divest himself, and expelling his son from the if he can, of all prejudice, and comthrone.--The oppressions and exe- pare the treatment he and his re. cutions which took place under the forming friends complain of from the Stuarts, not from the tyrannical or supporters of corruption, with the cruel disposition of those monarchs, usage experienced by the catholics but in consequence of the clamours in their endeavours to elicit the truth of the puritan ancestors of our en- of religion, and repel the calumnies lightened reformers, to have the laws of their enemies, and he will find against papists rigidly enforced, that the efforts of his dear ancestors compelled many noble families, and to maintain their system of religious numerous mechanics and artizans, to liberty, were far more grinding and geek an asylum, where they might overwhelming, more calumnious be allowed to follow the dictates of and reproachable, more base and their conscience, which was denied iniquitous, more cruel and despotic, them in the land of their birth by the than any the most severe and arbi, apostles and strugglers for evange-trary of the measures condemned by

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