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Font INSCRIPTION. The Norman church at Cumberland, p. 510). If Mr. Jewitt can show Goodmanham (East Riding, Yorkshire) contains that the “ broad-sheet” of which he speaks was two fonts-one low, plain and massive, in which printed more than a quarter of a century before Coifi is said to have been baptized by Paulinus; 1809, then Mark Lonsdale's claim at once dissolves the other very ornamental, by tradition, of the into thin air; but till then both charges must age of Henry VIII. The latter bears the fol- stand, as I believe they now do stand, on terra lowing inscriptions:

firma. (1.) Wybt I owt . l....lll ma | be saued of 1

Allow me, however, to remark that I have no por charcte I pra fortbem / yt yis font mayd.

quarrel with Mr. Jewitt's collection as a whole. Lobert clebyng pson.

On the contrary, I am glad he has published the Robert appllton.

Derbyshire Ballads in such a neat style; and I (2.) ane | ma / riagrāple na dñs | tecā | bñ |

would rejoice to see those of all the other Engdicta tu | in / mu

lish counties thus gathered together in distinct volumes.

SIDNEY GILPIN. (3.) lade belp .ibs. (1.) The clerk said it used to be " that all may

THE NATIONAL CREST OF IRELAND.-In a paper be saved," &c. The dots indicate where the in the Anthologice Hibernice by Sylvester O'Halletters are broken off. What the first two words loran, M.R.I.A. (vol. i. p. 173) on the Ancient are I cannot say: if we take the first letter for M, Heraldic Arms of Ireland, he states that in that then we may say

Might.” Probably part of country he could obtain no information as to the the second word is destroyed.

crest of Ireland; but, on application to the Col(2.) The letters in the last two divisions may lege of Heralds in London, he was informed that be taken in many ways, but in none very clearly. the crest of Ireland, as used by our princes at Can any one suggest the remainder after “bene- tilts and tournaments, and afterwards by the dicta tu"?

Henrys and Edwards was “a bleeding hind (3.) These words are placed on shields, the one wounded by an arrow, under the arch of an old between “help” and “ ih” being properly

castle.” charged.

Is this correct? When was it first used and Unfortunately I had not time to get a rubbing. by whom, and when was it discontinued ? I shall feel obliged to any of your recent font

J. P. correspondents who can supply me with correct NOTTINGHAM GOOSE FAIR. - I should be glad versions of 1 and 2.

•W. C. B. to know if any collections have been formed toGOVETT FAMILY. - I noticed recently in the wards a history of this celebrated fair, which I Times a marriage by the Ven. Archdeacon Govett believe, in point of antiquity, dates its origin so at New Plymouth, New Zealand. Where can I far back as almost to defy the researches of the find a pedigree of the Govett family (originally, antiquary. It is held on October 2 in each year, I believe, from Somersetshire), and what are

and is proclaimed by the mayor of Nottingham their armorial bearings? Their crest is given in for eight days. I should also be glad of a referWashbourne's Book of Crests. One branch of the

ence to any works giving a history of the fair.

W. D. family took the name of Romaine, I believe, some



HASLETT POWELL.-I wish to learn any par“THE HUMOURS OF HAYFIELD Fair." — A ticulars about this person : where he lived, what ballad bearing this title is printed by Mr. Jewitt he did, who were his ancestors. I have seen a among his Derbyshire Ballads and Songs, which portrait of him, said to be by Hogarth. His he says “ will be seen to be a version-whether wife's name was Ann, and he had by her a son, the original one or not remains to be seen—of the born June 8, 1738, supposed to have died young, favourite ballad usually called 'Come Lasses and and two daughters, one of whom married Lads”;” and he further remarks, “it is, with Mercer, and afterwards Duncan Dallas, said to be the exception of here and there a verse, or part uncle to the judge Sir Robert Dallas. of a verse, totally distinct from it.” I think it

G. W. M. would have been wiser to have kept the suggestion about the "originality” of the Hayfield Fair CURIOUS TENURE. — I have lately seen in print ballad out of the question altogether. It only the curious tenure by which the Earls of Abercontains seven verses in all; the first, fourth, gavenny held the manor and advowson of Inkfifth, and sixth of which are copied almost word borough, Worcestershire, by a grant from Philip for word from "Come Lasses and Lads" (Chap- and Mary, but to revert to the crown in the event pell, p. 531); and the second and third are copied of the failure of male issue. Are not grants of equally as literally from Mark Lonsdale's “Last such a nature very unusual ? Martinmas gone á Year” (Songs and Ballads of


years since.

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TRIPTYCH AT OBERWESEL.—In the" Liebfrauen- perimentally what is meant by “ playing Old Goosekirche at Oberwesel, over the high altar, is a berry." large carved triptych full of figures painted and 3. The origin of the phrase, “Sing Old Rose and burn gilded, one of the most exquisite works of art in the bellows,” in one of Izaak Walton's favourite songs, Rhenish Prussia. Tradition says that this re is uncertain. There are two conjectural statements remarkable triptych is of English execution, and specting it in “ N. & Q.” And S. ix. 264.] was brought from our country by one of the

ANONYMOUS.—I have a tract, Church Pageantry Schomberg family in the time of the Great Rebellion. Can this tradition be verified ?


or, Organ-Worship Arraign’d and ConEDWARD F. RIMBAULT.

demn'd. By Eugenius, Junior. London: Printed

in Usum Vitaliani Filiorum. MDCC. There is no WEARING A LEATHER APRON.-In Suffolk, a printer's name. “In usum Vitaliani Filiorum" is woman denying something with which she was employed because the writer ascribes the introcharged, would say, “I should as soon think of duction of organs to Pope Vitalian. He quotes wearing a leather apron.” This has been ex the Rev. Mr. II, the present Rector of All Souls plained thus: There is a popular belief that the in Colchester (Ceremony Monger, ch. i. pp. 11, man who carried the cross for our Blessed Lord 17), who expresses himself thus: was a farrier, and had the nails stuck in his

“ His Cape, his Hood, his Surplice, his Rochet, his apron. Can any correspondent give further in- cringing Worship, his Altars with Candles on 'em, his formation

this curious subject ?

Bagpipes or Organs, and in some places Viols and Vio-
John Piggor, JUN. lins, and Singing Bass, are so very like Popery, that

(saith he) I protest when I came in 1660 from beyond sea to Paul's and Whitehall, I cou'd scarce think myself

to be in England, but in Spain or Portugal again.” Queries with answers.

Eugenius speaks of his opponents as "EcclePOPULAR SAYINGS.—What is the origin of the siastical Tantivies.” By the tone of his tract, by following vulgar sayings ? 1. “ Pull baker, pull his use of the word bairns devil.” 2. “To play up old gooseberry., 3. “To praise of Bishop Burnet in more than one place, I sing old Rose and burn the bellows." HARFRA. take the author to be a Scotchman,

[1. The origin of the saying, “ Pull Baker, pull Devil,” Bound up with this is another tract in small is given in “N. & Q." 2nd S. iii, 258, 316.

quarto, The Great Question concerning Things 2. “To play up Old Gooseberry.” Supposing this to Indifferent. in Religious Worship briefly stated. be the correct form of the phrase, it would appear to bear

The Second Edition. London: Printed in the a musical, and at the same time a saltatory reference. If year 1660. There is no printer's name. there is, or ever was, such a dancing tune as “Old Goose

HYDE CLARKE. berry," then“ Play up Old Gooseberry” would be [1. The following imprint may be found in some copies equivalent to saying to the musicians, “Strike up the of Church Pageuntry Display'd: London, Printed for A. tune of Old Gooseberry, that the dancing may begin." Baldwin, at the Oxford Arms in Warwick Lane. 1700."

Another form of the expression, however, and perhaps 2. The second tract is by Edward Bagshaw. There is the more usual one, is simply " To play Old Gooseberry,” some account of this “ turbulent Nonconformist," as not “ To play up.

Dr. Kennett styles him in his Parochiul Antiquities, in “ To play Old Gooseberry,” means much the same as Wood's Athena (Bliss), iii. 944-950, and in The Noncon“ To play the Dickens,” or “ To play the Deuce.” Either formist's Memorial, by Calamy and Palmer, iii. 111-114.] of these expressions, and perhaps one as much as the

JACK AND JILL.other, is applied vernacularly to a mischievous character, or to one who has utterly mismanaged some business that

“ Jack and Jill went up the hill he had in hand, nay, who has actually done mischief, or

To fetch a pail of water," &c. "made a mess of it.” Sometimes also, referring to the

Is Jil a male or female ? What is the

genefuture, the terms imply a caution :-“ If you let him have rally received notion on the subject? I have his own way in that affair, he'll play the Deuce with it”; heard much discussion on the point lately. “ If you don't keep a tight hand on him, he'll play the

C. L. S. Dickens”; and, in the same way, “ If you leave it to [Jack and Gill were measures. “ Wherefore," says him, he'll play Old Gooseberry.” But why " Old Goose- Grumio, “be the Jacks fair within, and the Gills fair berry ?"

without,” meaning the leathern jacks clean within, and “ Old Gooseberry," in the connection last specified, the metal gills polished without. These became familiar would seem to be old gooseberry wine. Wine made from representatives of the two sexes, as in the proverbs, gooseberries by keeping becomes brisk and sparkling, like “Every Jack must have his Gill ;” and “A good Jack champagne. If, on entering your cellar, you find that a makes a good Gill.” The expression occurs in John lively old bottle of such gooseberry has burst and carried Heywood's Dialogue of Wit and Folly, Percy Society's havoc amongst its neighbours, you will then know ex edition, p. 11 :

“ No more hath he in mynde, ether payne or care,

Than hathe other Cock my horse, or Gyll my mare!”
Gill ought to be written Jill, for it seems to be a nick-

THE IRISH HARP. name for Julia, or Juliana. Julienne," says Miss Yonge,

(3rd S. xii. 141.) "was in vogue among the Norman families, and it long prevailed in England as Julyan ; and, indeed, it became The old monkish chroniclers, in the quiet cells so common as Gillian, that Jill (or Gill) was the regular of their convents, invented strange stories, and companion of Jack, as still appears in nursery rhyme, they did not condescend to commence their histhough now this good old form has entirely disappeared, tories later than the dates of events mentioned in except in the occasional un-English form of Juliuna.”— the Old Testament, or by Homer. When Adam History of Christiun Names.]

was driven out of Paradise, Noah walked out of Long BRETHREN. — Three principal monks, Troy, were their favourite epochs. In a chronicle

the ark, or Æneas escaped from the burning of Dioscorus, Ammonius, and Euthymius, driven of the bishops of London, down to 1483, we find out of Egypt, circa A.D. 400, by a party of soldierz them, the bishops, traced back to Noah and to under the leadership of Theophilus, Bishop of Adam. The Spanish chroniclers present an unAlexandria, were surnamed the Long Brethren.

broken line of their kings up to Tubal Cain. Why so called ?


Silesia was named from the prophet Elisha, of Darlington.

whom the Silesians say they are lineal 'de[These monks are thus noticed by Bingham (Anti- scendants. The city of Paris, was founded by the quities of the Christian Church, book vii. chap. ii. sect. 14): renowned son of Priam. Tours owes its name to "Another name which the historians give to some Turonius, one of the Trojan heroes; and the city Egyptian monks, who were deeply concerned in the dis- of Troyes was really founded by them, as its name putes between Theophilus and Chrysostom, is the title of clearly proves. Britain is, in like manner, the Makpoi, or Longi ; but this was peculiar to four brethren, | land of Brute, the grandson of Ascanius, who, Dioscorus, Ammonius, Eusebius, and Euthymius, who having the misfortune to kill his father, fled were noted by this name for no other reason, as Sozomen over to Britain, and subjugated the giants who (lib. vii. c. 30) 'observes, but only because they were once dwelt here. An equally veracious long line tall of stature. In Sidonius Apollinaris they are some of shadowy kings is boasted by the Scotch, and times called cellulani, from their living in cells (lib. ix. they actually have their portraits painted and exEp. iii. ad Faustum), and insulani, islanders, because the hibited in Holyrood House, Edinburgh. Nay famous monastery in the Isle of Lerins was the place more, they actually show among other shams the where most of the French bishops and learned men in stains of Rizzio's blood on the floor, though the those ages had their education. So this was a peculiar building, in which that murder was committed, name for the monks of Lerins." ]

was burned down in 1650. Crowds of gaping

country people come up to Edinburgh by excurQUOTATIONS.

sion train, every summer, to see the apartments of “Hope told a flattering tale,

Mary Queen of Scots, in a building that was burnt That joy would soon return.”

to the ground by Cromwell's soldiery. I cannot find out the author of it, though I be But in Ireland, alas! the last civilised of Euroliere it to be a familiar quotation.

pean countries, we have a stronger dose still

F. S. BULLOCK. there the ravings of the bards are added to the [This song was introduced by Madame Mara at the inventions of the chroniclers, and their absurd King's Theatre, Haymarket, in the opera of Artaxerxes,

fictions are not only believed in to this day, but and was written by Peter Pindar, i.e. John Wolcot.]

we are asked to swallow them. Mr. O'Connor,

author of the Dissertations, owned to Dr. Warner In whose works are the following wholesome “that the heat of youth and amor patrie had couplets to be found ?

inclined him to extend the matter (the antiquities 1. “ All habits gather by unseen degrees,

of Ireland) beyond the rigour to which he should As brooks to rivers-rivers run to seas." have confined himself.” But, as an Irishman | Dryden, Ovid, xv.]

myself, I must say that I do not see any amor * Learning by study must be won,

patrie in the matter. I would much rather point 'Twas ne'er entailed from son to son."

out the truth, how that, under the fostering hands [Gay, Fable, xi. 2.]

of English teachers, we have so soon emerged Q. E. D.

from barbarous ignorance, than boast of our an“ The gay Lothario."

cient civilisation, which I know cannot be true, [N. Rowe, The Fair Penitent, Act V. Sc. 1.] and is laughed at by every antiquary in Europe. “ As women wish to be who love their lords." It may do for pagan O'Learys, or Irish helps in [J. Home, Douglas, Act I. Sc. 1.]

New York, to talk of Tuatha-na-Daanans, MileH. A. F. sians, or to quote Keating as an authority, but it



should not be offered to the readers of “N. & Q." from Thrace to Gothland, from Gothland to They, generally speaking, do not know that Keat- Spain, and from Spain tó Ireland.” Nor did ing tells us of two visits to Ireland before the Gadelus land with the Milesians in Ireland; as Deluge. One was by Seth and some daughters they were two or three hundred years on their of Cain; the other was by a lady named Ceasarea, wanderinys, we may, so suppose. Milidh, who who arrived just forty days before the Flood. appears to have been his grandson, and who marHow accurate these old chroniclers were ! But ried another Scota, daughter of another Pharaoh, let us hear what Keating says about the Mile- led the host. sians. One Fenius, the grandson of Japhet, from The Tuatha-na-Danaans, who then ruled Irewhom the modern Fenians take their name, was land, were a nation of sorcerers. MR. O'CAVAin the plains of Shinar when Nimrod, and his nagh, on the authority of the senachies (chroniprofane confederates, insanely attempted to build clers), records that three harpers accompanied the Tower of Babel. Fenius did not join them, them to Ireland hundreds of years before this and he was rewarded by not losing the gartigarran, advent of the Milesians. Being sorcerers, as I or original language, and thus it is, that to this have said, and knowing that the feet of Milidh day, the language spoken in the Garden of Eden contained their bitter foes, they caused Ireland to is that spoken in Ireland. But Fenius learned look no larger than a hog's back, thinking to deother languages, and discovered and taught the ceive their enemies. But the Milesians were not Hebrew, Greek, and Latin alphabets ! grand- to be taken in with such petty deceptions; they son, Gadelus, was dangerously bitten by a ser- landed, and three days after fought a great battle pent, but the wound was miraculously cured by a with the Tuatha-na-Danaans. I need not say that fast friend of Fenius, no other than the prophet the Milesians were the victors; but Scota, who Moses. It is absurdly stated that St. Patrick appears to have been an amazon, was slain, and drove the snakes out of Ireland ; but it was done her place of burial is shown to this day. ages before by the Jewish prophet, who, when So minute was this history that the inventors he cured Gadelus, said that, wherever his pos- of it were forced to make a Deus ex machina to terity should remain or inhabit, there should be no carry it down, the more so that, although Fenius serpents; and so there is none in Ireland, or in invented three alphabets, there was still a shrewd Crete, formerly head-quarters of the Milesian idea, that the Irish did not know the art of writ

An old Irish rhymester has thus para- ing, till it was taught to them by St. Patrick. So phrased the words of Moses :

the machina was a man named Caiolte Mac“ The holy prophet was inspired to see

Ronain, who should be introduced to those Into events of dark futurity,

readers of “N. & Q." who are fond of hearing of And said—- For thee, young prince, Heaven bas in great longevities, for he lived some two or three Blessings that mortals scarce enjoyed before ;

thousand years, and told the whole story to St. For wheresoe'er thy royal line shall come

Patrick, who carefully wrote it down. Caiolte Fruitful shall be their land, and safe their home; was then baptised by the saint, and died at last in No poisonous snake or reptile shall deface

the odour of great sanctity, and is, I believe, an The beauty of the field, or taint the grass ;

Irish saint until this day. And so an old Irish No noisome reptile with envenomed teeth, Nor deadly insect with infectious breath,

rhymester says: Shall ever blast that land or be the cause of death;

“ From Gadelus * the Irish have their name, But innocence and arts shall flourish there,

The Scots from Scota, Feini from Fenius." And learning in its lovely shapes appear;

I am ashamed to quote such puerile rubbish, The poets there shall in their songs proclaim Thy glorious acts and never-dying name.'

but I do it to show a specimen of Keating, an

author quoted by Mr. O'CAVANAGH as an auGadelus, who married Scota, daughter of Pha- thority for the antiquity of the Irish barp. Moore, raoh, became great friends with Moses, and pro- from his being a poet, and from his great love of posed to leave Egypt with the Israelites, but country, would have liked to introduce the MileMoses thought it was best that they should act sians into his History of Ireland, but found he separately. Accordingly, the Israelites borrowed really could not. And one of his reasons I may jewels from the Egyptians, and started by way of just give. Ptolemy, the geographer, published an the desert; the Gadelians borrowed the ships of extraordinarily correct map of Ireland in the second Pharaoh, and set off by water. The consequence century, and gives the names of the tribes which was that for want of their ships the Egyptians then inhabited it; and there is not one name were all drowned in the Red Sea. He did not, amongst them, that can be phonographically torhowever, sail straight to Ireland. He sailed, as

tured to any resemblance to Gael or Scot. CelKeating tells us, "from Egypt to Crete, from Crete larius long ago drew the same conclusions from it. to Scythia, from Scythia to Gothland, from Goth- He says: "" #os populos Ptolemæus in Hibernia land to Spain, from Spain back to Scythia, from Scythia back to Egypt, from Egypt to Thrace, • The Latinised form of Gadhoil or Gael.


prodidit; nullos autem in illis recensuit Scotos, the enigma propounded by MR. WALTER W. quod ideo posteriores, saltem nomen illorum, SKEAT: assuredly one of the hardest nuts ever oportet in hæc insula fuisse." I again repeat that I given out to be cracked. The explanation on am ashamed to quote such rubbish: the very name which I venture as to the meaning of “putting of Milesian is a jest to the antiquaries of Europe. a man under a pot" is as follows: Indeed, as there is no credit given to any account It is notorious that in the palmy days of monaof Irish kings previous to the Christian era, the chism every conventual building contained an in simple cyphers A.M., or anno mundi, prescribed so pace or solitary cell, commonly underground, and generally to Irish histories, is well interpreted as commonly entered only from a hole in the ceilAsinaria Maxima, and provokes perpetual laughter ing, and precisely corresponding to the oubliette wherever it is seen.

of the baronial strongholds. The remote ancestor The fables of the Welsh, as told to us by Geof- of both in pace and oubliette was the carnificium or frey of Monmouth, are sober and sapient in lowermost dungeon of the Romans; the horrible comparison to the Irish fictions. Though we hear hole into which the victim was lowered to be of a Brute, a grandson of Ascanius, settling in handled by the hangman, and out of which he Britain about a thousand years before the Chris- could be drawn only by the uncus or hook. This tian era, yet he tells us also of a Guendolæna, a lowermost pit is to this day extant in the MamerLocrine and an Imogene, a Bladud, a Lear and tine prisons at Rome. To the conventual in pace his daughters, a Belinus, a Lud, an Arthur, and of the middle ages were consigned profligate and others, all non-existences, but living as long as refractory, and, it is to be feared, sometimes our language exists embalmed in poetry and merely useless or troublesome friars. The term romance. But the Milesian fictions are beneath of in pace applied to these dungeons arose from contempt both as history, or poetry, Still the the circumstance that a horrible mockery of reliIrish antiquaries—save the mark—knew what gious ceremonial was gone through when the culthey were about: by pretending to trace the prit was consigned to his living tomb. Being chief families of Ireland up to Milesius, they en- duly immured therein, the abbot cast a handful of gaged them also under the banner of the pitiful earth upon him, and said, " Vade in pace,” the delusion. The readers of "N. & Q.,” however, which was equivalent to "Stay there and rot." know something about genealogy; they know that It is believed that in some rare instances the with all the modern appliances for tracing pedi- victim, with nothing more than a loaf of bread grees, with lists of members of parliament, lists and a pitcher of water to sustain life, was absoof grand and petty jurymen, tombstones, heralds' lutely bricked up in his prison, where he speedily visitations, newspapers, and the thousand-and-one died the most horrible of deaths. Such was the means we have now that were utterly unknown fate of Scott's Constance de Beverley, and of the to the ancient Irish, we find it exceedingly diffi- “Nell Cook" of Ingoldsby's appalling ghost story, cult to trace even a noble pedigree for three who, having been convicted of poisoning in a hundred years. Yet we are told that ignorant “warden pie” a certain canon, her master and senachies, who could neither read nor write, paramour, was buried alive under the pavement of traced pedigrees for upwards of a thousand years. the “Jail Entry” in the Cathedral Close at CanMoreover, the system of tanistry that obtained terbury; the remains of the poisoned pie being in Ireland, by which, not the direct heir, but the placed beside her in the sepulchre. Preferring, howbest man of the tribe succeeded to the chieftain- ever, to deal with fact rather than fiction, it would ship, rendered it utterly impossible. And though seem that the in pace meant simply solitary cona set of barren spectators laugh at a Milesian finement on very scant rations, and for a period pedigree taking its rise, as they all do, from Adam, entirely at the pleasure of the abbot. It may be get the judicious must grieve, they all bearing that this captivity was sometimes life-long. It their inaccuracy conspicuous on their faces, as the must be borne in mind, however, that these convent lawyer would say, they being invariably' traced | dungeons were not entirely to be attributed to the from father to son!

WILLIAM PINKERTON. monkish cruelty and tyranny. They were simply (To be continued.)

ecclesiastical prisons; and the clergy claimed with great jealousy the privilege of dealing with their

own criminals in their own manner. Thus the PUTTING A MAN UNDER POT.

hospital of Bicêtre in Paris, which formerly con

tained a number of hideous little cells called (3rd S. xi. 277.)

cabanons answering to the in pace, is said to have I have but recently procured the two last been originally erected as a place of correction for volumes of “N. & Q.," and have consequently an dissolute monks by an English Bishop of Winimmense arrear of questions and answers to read chester, of whose title “Bicêtre " itself is held to up. It is thus very probable that by this time be only a corruption. At the suppression of the more than one solution has been furnished to monasteries at the great French Revolution num

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