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of considering His Majesty's message of that day. He fhou therefore certainly persist in moving, that this subject shou be taken into consideration upon the day ensuing, and ai Member who disapproved doing so, might then move to a journ the consideration. Mr. Pitt added, that in the vo of thanks to His Majesty, should It pass, would be includ the unanimous resolution of the House, that they would ready to vote such supplies to defray the expences likely be incurred as should be necessary. He did not mean to ent nt all into any debate then, but there was no ground for e pecting any farther information than that contained in tl ., \ message itself. TVTr. H. Mr. Henry Thornton, having premised that it was not ii Tharnttm tended to create an exclusive Sierra Leona Company, bi merely to convince the House that a large capital woulJ 1 Wanted to carry on a trade to this settlement, and that then fore it would be expedient to incorporate those concerned i it, in order that they might become responsible, with the fortunes, no farther than for the sums they embarked in i observed, that the motion would explain the other objects c the bill they wistied to introduce. He then moved, "Tin "leave be given to bring in a bill for establishing a Compan M for carrying on trade between the kingdom of Great Bri "tain and the coasts, harbours, and countries of Africa "and for enabling the said Company t,o hold by grant fron ** His Majesty, his heirs, and successors, and from thenativ "Princes of Africa, a certain district of land, commonl; "called the Peninsula of Sierra Leona, now vested in Hi "Majesty, or belonging to the said Princes, for the bette: "enabling the said Company to carry on the said trade."

Lord Lord Sheffield, having remarked that he had been desires Sheffield, by a large body of his constituents, who were African merchants, to oppose the bringing in of the bill, read to the House a letter from his constituents, in which their objections were enumerated. Colonel Colonel Tarlcton declared his intention of opposing the bil Tarleton. in a futurestage, on the principle that the African trade had, by two separate acts of Parliament, been many years since laid open, and that the only convenient coast cr port to trade at, was upon Sierra Leona river.

Mr. Mr. Gascoyne observed, that he also fliould, in a subsequent Gascoyne. stage, oppose the bill, as a bill for a monopoly, and therefore not meriting the countenance of the House.

Mr. Mr. Thornton answered, that an exclusive trade was not the Thornton object of the persons applying, and that the bill did not even contain such a word as '■' exclusive." Leave was given to bring in the bill.

Lord North, from the Select Committee, who were ap

E' Had to try and determine the merits of the petition of hard Beckford, Esq.; and also the petition of the several priori s whose names are thereunto subscribed, on behalf of tfcnJelves and others, being lawful electors of the borough ofLeominster, in the county of Hereford, severally compiain ng of an undue election and return for the said borwgh, informed the House, that the said Select Committee hiTe determined,

That John Sawyer, Esq. is not duly elected a Burgess to ssrve in this present Parliament for the borough of Leominster, in the county of Hereford;

And also, that the said Select Committee have determine,

That Richard Beckford, Esq. the petitioner, ought to hire been returned a Burgess to serve in this present Parliament for the said borough of Leominster;

And also, that the said Select Committee have determined,

That the said Richard Beckford, Esq. is duly elected a BuTgess to serve in this present Parliament for the said borough of Leominster;

And also, that the said Select Committee have determined,

That the petition of the said Richard Beckford, Esq. did not appear to the said Select Committee to be frivolous or Rtarious;

And also, that the said Select Committee have determined,

That the petition of the said electors of the borough of Ltominsier, in the county of Hereford, die' not appear to the had Select Committee to be frivolous or vexatious;

And also, that the said Select Committee have determined,

That the opposition of the said John Sawyer, Esq. to the W several petitions, did not appear to the said Select Committee to be frivolous or vexatious.

When the House had resolved itself into a Committee of fapply, to which the army estimates, presented the 9th of March instant, and the extraordinaries of the army, were £rft, upon motion, referred; and when Mr. Gilbert had Utfn the chair,

The Secretary at War rose, and observed, that some for- Secretary mer remarks which had proceeded from an honourable Ge- « War, Mf»l (Burgoyne) rendered it necessary that he (hculd tivspastupon the attention of the Committee with theenumeBtioDdf some particular points respecting the amount of the 'ijwncei of the independent companie?, and the reasons for P 2 raising

raising them. As these companies had drawn the attenti of that House into discussion before the holidays, he was; therglad to avail-'himself of the present opportunity for e plaining the motives for raising those corps, which he hos to be able to do to the satisfaction of the Committee. I wished to bring to the recollection of the Committee t three distinct and different objections which had been stat to these corps by the honourable General previoufly to t" recess. It had been stated, that the raising of new corps w an unnecessary e'xpence; that they had given an extraord nary extension of patronage to the Crown; and-lastly, th. a great profusion of public money had been occasioned by tl measure. These were the objections which the honourab General had made to independent companies, and he w: happy to be able to answer eacli of them; but he first beg-gc leave to observe, that the intention of Government, in rai ing these independent companies, had been directly the rever of the imputations conveyed in the three objections. It ha been their intention to raiie a certain number of men, bt never to raise new corps, nor to increase the patronage of th Crown, nor to occasion any profusion of public money. H would endeavour to state fairly whit the measure itself reall' was. At the time the measure had been adopted, it was in dispensably necessarv to raise a very large body of men witl the utmost expedition, and at :»ny rate more speedilv that the general way of rasing men would admit; and looking a what had been done on former occasions, particularly in th< course of the last war, he saw nothing but expence and patronage in the modes ihen resorted to, and thence he thought the measure which had been adopted vvas the best possible mode of attaining the object, and that it might be easily justified. Sir George here entered into a detail on the business, for-the purpose of shewing that it was not at all subject to either of those objections which had been stated by General Burgoyne. He remarked, that 5702 recruits were raised in little more than a month, at 10I. sd. per man; and that therefore the total expence of these men amounted to little more than 57,0001. This number of troops were raised at a time when thepub'ic service pressed very hard for them. Sir George also enumerated the Captains and Lieutenants, and after calculating all the expences, made the additional expence to the half pay amount to 8,580!. He trusted, that when gentlemen fairly and candidly considered the subject, all the imputations which had been made by the honourable General would be done away; but he could have wished that tbe.e imputations hail not been - made at all. He disclaimed any intention whatever of extending the patronage of the Crown, of raising new corps, or of throwing away

■• • the the public money; and, in conclusion, he produced the solWing string of resolutions, and moved the first of them re

155,287!. 5s. 5d. for reduced officers of land forces and amines, for 1791.

iO,oocl. on account of reduced officers of independent companies.

212!. f4S. yd. for allowances to reduced horse guards. 55,0921. 10s. for account of reduced officers of American forces,

4,9071. Ios. for allowances of reduced officers.

3,161!. JOs. lod. for officers late in the service of the Stares General.'

9,7101. 4s. 3d. for pensions to widows of commissioned officers.

174,167!. 4s. 3^d. for pensions of Chelsea Hospital. 5,9: ll. 4s. 3d. for bcorch roads.

335,234!. 18s. for extraordinary expences of land forces. 3(1,093!. for subsidy to the Landgrave of Hc-sse Caflell. The Secretary at War having sat down,

General Burgoyne asked him, whether lie did not mean to Gtner*J state, on the fide of public credit, the sums for which the Burgoyne former commissions of the officers promoted in the independent companies were now on iale I

The Secretary .it War rose again ; acknowledged that measure, and, from a paper in his hand, calculated that the saving would be, from twenty-four to forty thousand pounds or more.

General Burgoyne then proceeded to recall to the recollection of the House, the circumstances that passed relative to the present question.

In a debate upon the Army Estimates before Christmas, he had stated the levy of the independent companies to be the most lavish in point of economy, and the most indefensible in point of military principle, that ever was brought forward by office. He was called upon by the Chancelloi of the Exchequer, to maintain that proposition upon a future day, wh-n the House might be better prepared for the subject.— It was not his f.iult that the day did not arrive sooner; it was J point of honour not to let it flip when it should .inive, though he had little expectation of farther use to the Public, than that of holding out a warning and caution for times that -most men thought, and hoped, to be remote. The events of this day set this discussion in a more important light. The Minister had brought a message from the Throne, indicating a new war; the Secretary at War had taken the Decision to express himself so wedded to the measure of independent pendent companies, t^athe should recommend it again wher ever new levies should be required. He (the General) ha now then a new claim upon the attention of the House, upo the charafler of that measure, (to use the honourable S« cretary's own term) the renewal of which leemed to be im minent. He was at issue with the honourable Secretary. 1 what he had to lay before the House was ill founded in fact or weak in argument, he should throw himself upon the can dor of the House, under the apology of an honest intention if, on the contrary, the measure, as now explained anc defended, should appear to be as false in principle, and a: pernicious in execution, as he had before stated it to be, hi had no doubt of the honourable Secretary, however wede'ec, to his former opinion, giving way, or being controlled, and the Public and the army being relieved from any apprehension of a repetition of such errors.

The General 'begged leave to re-state, very shortly, the prominent points of his charge in the former debate, not one of which (as he conceived) had been satisfactorily answered, after all the time taken for deliberation.

Ill forming rhe peace establisliment, the point in consideration was, whether to maintain the number of men that were to compose it, in as small a number of regiments as possible, which would have been the more economical plan; or a far greater number of regiments, with a small proportion of private men to each, which was the more expedient plan, upon the principle, that having the officers, commission and non-commission, ready, an army of effective strength for war would be raised, upon an emergency, at very short notice. We had, therefore, during the peace, an army of officers; not a single new officer was necessary for an augmentation of ten, or even of fifteen thousand men. That position would not be disputed. The ground of argument for the levy of new officers, on the former occasion, and on this day, was, that men were not to be had by common means, or the usual bounties and modes of recruiting. That judgement was precipitately formed; no fair trial was given to the recruiting of the old corps. Men, it was said, did not come in so fast as the service required, at five guineas a man.—Suppose ten had been given, (a bounty that will be proved far short of what these companies cost) was there a Colonel of an old regiment who would not haye pledged himself to complete it at that price, if given without competition of new corps, at higher price? But why were not

other encouragements to the recruiting servicetried—encouragements more efficacious than money f From the reign of Queen Anne, there had been more than twenty acts of


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