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Tuded to. After some further conversation Ward that there was no diminution in the it was finally agreed, that the two motions estimates; by Mr. Huskisson, that the apshould be to the following purport: 1. plication of the money voted would be " That, an humble address be presented matter of subsequent consideration ; and to his inajesty, that he will be graciously by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that pleased to give directions, that there be it was certainly intended to reward the laid before this house, an Account of the captors out of the stores, or the value of number of Licences which have been re- them. coinmended by the lords of his majesty's priry council to be granted by his majesty,
HOUSE OF LORDS. onder his sign manual, to persoris applying
Monday, February 1. for the same, for commercial objects, from the coinmencement of hostilities in May introduced by lords Wentworth and Lake.
[MINUTES.) Viscount Carthcart was 1903 to the first of Nov. last; distinguishing His patent of creation having been read at the number in each month or year. 2. That there be laid before this house, an Account the table, his lordship took the oaths and
his of the whole amount of Fees or Gratuities cated the thanks of the house severally to
seat. The Lord Chancellor communiwhich have been yearly paid and received at the Office of his majesty's most honour- each noble lord standing in his place whilst
viscount Carthcart and lord Gambier, able privy council, or at any other of the
the thanks were delivered. Viscount public offices, by or on account of persons Cathcart and lord Gambier severally adwho have obtained or have applied for Licences permitting them to navigate or
dressed the house, expressing their thanks trade, from the commencement of hostili- for the high honour conferred upon them,
and speaking in the warmest terms of apties in May 1803 to the 31st of Dec. last, specifying by what persons in the said probation of the ability, skill, discipline, offices respectively such Fees, or any pro- Navy employed in the Expedition to Coportion of them, have been ultimately received, or in what other manner the whole penhagen. amount of such Fees has been disposed of; and stating by what regulation, or according to what rate, such Fees are required.”
Monday, February 1. (Navy ESTIMATES.] The house resolved (Vote of THANKS-EXPEDITION TO Coitself into a Committee of Supply, Mr. PENHAGEN.) The Speaker acquainted the Wharton in the chair. On the motion of house, that he had received from admiral Mr. R. Ward, the following resolutions the right hon. lord Gambier, the followwere agreed to, viz. 1. “ 'That the num. ing Letter, in return to the Thanks of the ber of 130,000 men should be employed house, signified to him, in obedience to for the sea service of the present year, in their commands of Thursday last: cluding 14,000 royal marines. 2. That a “ Sir; I have the honour to acknow, sum not exceeding 3,126,500l. be granted ledge the receipt of your Letter of the to his majesty for the wages of the above 29th inst. in which you inform me, that men for 13 months, at the rate 1l. 178. per you are commanded by the house of man per month. 3. That a sum not ex commons to communicate to me their ceeding 3,211,000l. be granted to his ma- Resolutions of Thanks for the services jesty for victualling the above men for 13 performed by me, and the Fleet unmonths, at the rate of il. 188. per man perder my command, on the late Expedition month. 4. That a
4. That a sum not exceeding to Copenhagen, transmitting to me at the 5,070,000l. be granted to his majesty, for same time authenticated copies of those the wear and tear of the Navy, for 13 Resolutions, and requesting of me to sigmonths, at the rate of 3l. per man per nify the same to vice admiral sir Henry month. 5. That a sum not exceeding Edwin Stanhope, rear admiral Essington, 521,500l. be granted to his majesty for de rear admiral Keats, and the several capfraying the charges of Ordnance for sea tains and other officers referred to therein. service, for 13 months, at the rate of 78. -In answer thereto, I beg leave to assure per man per month.” In answer to a
you, that this signal mark of approbation question from Mr. Tierney, whether any which the house of commons has been diminution was made in the Navy Esti- pleased to confer upon the officers, seamates, in consideration of the stores brought men, and marines, late under my comfrom Copenhagen, it was stated by Mr. mand, and upon myself, has impressed
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my mind with a deep and lasting sense of I am charged to deliver the Thanks of
Major general the hon. Edward Finch, feelings) to assure you and the house, that
be, without exciting in my breast feelings Major general Finch, major general and sensations such as I am unable to Grosvenor, and major general sir Arthur suppress. Sir, the proudest recompence, Wellesley; This house, contemplating the the most valuable remuneration, a soldier services performed by his majesty's Army can look to as a reward for public service, on the late Danish expedition, and ap- is the thanks of his country. When I plauding the zeal, intrepidity, and exer consider my own humble services, I feel tion displayed by the general officers em- oppressed and overcome as it were by the ployed in the reduction of Copenhagen, value I cannot but attach to the commuhas conferred upon them the high honour nication you make me ; and the more of its approbation and thanks ; a higher open, sir, to this feeling, impressed as I am reward this house has not to bestow. In with the handsome and flattering manner distributing these honours, it is at all in which you have been pleased to convey times matter of just pride and satisfaction the vote of the house to my brother officers to this house, to behold within its own walls and myself.” any of those distinguished persons whose Major general sir Arthur Wellesley said ; merit has raised them to this eminence.- “ Mr. Speaker ; I consider myself fortuBut I should indeed be wanting to the nate that I was employed by his majesty full expression of those sentiments which on a service which this house has con animate this house and the whole country, sidered of such importance, as to have if I forbore to notice, that we are on this marked with its approbation the conduct day crowning with our Thanks one gallant of those officers and troops who have perofficer, long since known to the gratitude formed it. The honour which this house of this house, who has long trodden the has conferred upon my honourable friends paths of glory, whose genius and valour and myself, is justly considered by the have already extended our fame and em- officers of the navy and army as the pire; whose sword has been the terror of highest which this country can confer; it our distant enemies, and will not now be is the object of the ambition of all who drawn in vain to defend the seat of empire are employed in his majesty's service, and itself, and the throne of his sovereign.- to obtain it has doubtless been the motive
of many of those acts of valour and good house, as the only tribute of gratitude conduct which have tended so eminently which I can offer, that it shall be the first to the glory, and have advanced the pros principle of my life, regardless of all conperity and advantage of, this country. I sequences to myself, to promote, by the can assure the house, that I am most sen- full exercise of my poor faculties, the ser-, sible of the great honour which they have vice of our much esteemed country, and done me, and I beg leave to take this op- the glory of our virtuous sovereign.
With portunity of returning you, sir, my thanks the manner which you have conveyed for the handsome terms, respecting myself, this honourable testimony of approbation in which your kindness to me has induced I am most deeply impressed ; and I beg you to convey the resolution of the house." leave to offer you my sincere and very
Captain sir Home Popham being come grateful acknowledgments." to the house, the Speaker acquainted him, [OFFICES IN Reversion Bill.] The Ofthat the house had, upon Thursday last, fices in Reversion bill was read a third time. resolved, That the Thanks of this house On the motion that it do pass, be given to him for his cordial and effec Sir Samuel Romilly expressed his regret, tual co-operation with the land forces that the bill had reached this stage withduring the siege of Copenhagen, and for out the house knowing what was the his indefatigable activity and exertions in opinion of his majesty's ministers, as to equipping the Danish navy for sea, and its merits.' He supposed, that they were effecting the embarkation and removal of not hostile to it because they had not opthe naval stores from the arsenal at that posed it, but it was of no small importance place. The Speaker then gave him the for the house to know, whether it had thanks of the house accordingly, as follows: their support or not. He remembered,
Captain sir Home Popham; The that ou a former occasion when a bill simiprompt and able distribution of his ma lar to the present had been brought into jesty's fleet, during the late important ex- parliament, a right hon. gent. had said, pedition to the Baltic ; the zeal and in that in his opinion it was a matter of very telligence displayed by his-majesty's naval great indifference, whether' it passed or forces in supporting the operations of the not, that on the one hand it was no invabesieging army; and their subsequent ex- sion of the king's prerogative, and that on ertions on compleating the service upon the other little practical good could result which they were employed; have obtained from it. He was of a different opinion the approbation and thanks of this house from that right hon. gent. for he thought, Amongst the gallant officers of that fleet, that if no practical good could be derived whose names have been honoured with from it, the bill ought not to pass, but he this high distinetion, I have to congra- was convinced that much good would retulate you, that yours also stands re sult from it, and therefore it had his hearty corded. And I do now accordingly, by support. the command of this house, give their The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, that Thanks to you, " for your cordial and ef he did not know what right his honourfectual co-operation with his majesty's able and learned friend had to call apon land forces during the siege of Copen- him, or any of his colleagues, to give hagen; and for your indefatigable activity his or their sentiments on the present and exertions in equipping the Danish occasion. He had never seen any reaNavy for sea, and ettecting the embarkson to expect much benefit from the passation and removal of the naval stores from ing of this bill, however much some the arsenal at that place.”-Upon which persons might think it would be pro
Sir Home Popham said ; " Mr. Speaker ; ductive of advantages. It had come oriI beg leave, sir, to express through you to ginally recommended by a committee, as this honourable house, my most profound being calculated to diminish the public sense of the notice it has been pleased to expenditure; and, therefore, it appeared take of my humble participation in the to him not to be a subject that ought to operations of the late expedition to Co- meet with opposition. As it had passed penhagen. No man, sir, can be insensi- this house formerly, and had afterble to the distinction which this house has wards been thrown out in another place, conferred upon the Army and Navy on rather by surprise, he thought it but reathe present occasion ; no man prizes that sonable to allow it to be restored to a distinction higher than the value I set similar stage with the former one. These upon it; and I beg leave to assure the were the motives that induced him to vote VOL. X.
for its third reading, and for its passing the period peremptorily prescribed to his that house.— The bill was then passed. majesty, for the acceptance of the Russian
[PAPERS RELATIVE to Russia) Mr. Se mediation, had created in London a very cretary Canning presented to the house, unfavourable impression against the interpursuant to their address to his majesty, the vention of his imperial majesty; that hru. following papers :
ever, notwithstanding his majesty had just PAPERS RELATING TO RUSSIA,
reason to be offended with the terms of the
13th article, such was his desire to embrace PRESENTED BY HIS MAJESTY's COMMAND TO
any opening which afforded the prospect BOTH HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT, FEBRUARY of the conclusion of an honourable peace, 1, 1808,
that he would not retract the conditional No. I.-Dispatch from the right hon acceptance of the mediation, which had
lord Granville Leveson Gower to Mr. already been conveyed to the Russian goSecretary Canning, dated St. Peters- vernment, in the note addressed by you to burg, Sept. 2d, 1807-Received Sept. M. Alopeus; that his majesty at the same 19th.
time, looked for some mark of the good Sir: I have the honour to inform you, will of the emperor of Russia towards great that on Saturday evening, 29th August, I Britain; that M. Alopeus had before the received by sir Stephen Shairp, who left late unfortunate events of Friedland and the fleet off Copenhagen upon the 24th of Tilsit, requested of you a project of a new August, your dispatches, Nos. 32 and 33, treaty of commerce, and had given the asand on Sunday the messenger Ruff deli- surance of the disposition of his court to vered to me those from No. 26 to 31 inclu- proceed to the definitive conclusion of a sive.-Being thus completely put in pos- commercial arrangement between the two session of the sentiments of his majesty's countries; that a project had in compli. government upon all the points which ance with his wish been communicated could come into discussion between this and transmitted to St. Petersburgh; and country and Great Britain, I lost no time that if the good-will of his imperial main requesting a conference with general jesty towards England continued unalBudberg, who, though extremely unwell, tered, I trusted no delay would take invited me to call upon him last night.--I place in proceeding to the negociation began the conference by observing that of this treaty; that the existence of any his excellency being already apprised by stipulation in this project, which was not the answer given by his majesty's se-approved of by this government, was no cretary of state, to M. Alopeus, of the obstacle to our entering into negociation conditional acceptance by the court of upon it, because I should take upon myLondon, of the proferred mediation of self to agree to any modifications which Russia, I had to state to him, that I was in- did not appear to change the basis and structed in the first instance to request the principles upon which it had been framed; communication of the secret articles of the that as France had, by the 27th article of treaty of Tilsit, and a frank disclosure of the Tilsit Treaty, secured the re-establishthe general views and intentions of the ment of her former commercial relations court of St. Petersburgh. That impartial with Russia, a natural and obvious mode of ity was the first requisite in the character proving the impartiality of the emperor of a mediator, and that before the British would be the renewal of the commercial government agreed to avail itself of the treaty with Great Britain.-General Budmediation of this court, it was essentially berg began his reply by acknowledging necessary that England should be placed, the existence of secret articles belonging with regard to the mediating power, on to the treaty of Tilsit. There were some, an equal footing with France; that the he said, which in no way concerned the confidential intercourse which had taken interests of England; that he could assure place between the emperor and Bonaparte me, and as an honest man, he would not at Tilsit, and by which his imperial ma- say it if it were not truth, there existed no jesty became acquainted with the princi- secret article whatever, which stipulated ples upon which the French government the shutting the Russian ports against the proposed negociating with the court of British coinmerce; that, with respect to London, had naturally excited an uneasi- the project to the treaty of commerce, he ness in England, which could only be re had to confess, that, from the press of moved by an unreserved communication; other business, and the bad state of his that I could not conceal from him, that health, he had not had time to lay it before
the emperor; that it must necessarily be replies of the Russian minister to the ques-, considered by the minister of commerce, tions which I had thought it my duty to before he could confer with me upon it; put to him in previous conferences, I found and that, as to the 27th article of the Tilsit a very mild and conciliating manner, and treaty, it only placed the commercial re an apparent anxiety to remove every diffilations of the two countries upon the same culty in the way of a perfectly good ung footing that they had been before the com- derstanding between the two countries. I mencernent of hostilities; that the com- regretted the reserve which had marked mercial treaty with France was not renew- the conduct of the Russian government toed, and would expire in two years; and wards England; he answered that Russia that it by no means followed because Bo- had just grounds of complaint against Engnaparte had communicated to the emperor land; he went into a long detail of the of Russia, the basis upon which he was little attention that had been given to the ready to conclude peace with England, repeated representations of the emperor of that his imperial majesty, had made any Russia, and I could not be surprised, he communications at Tilsit of the future said, that in the first moment of misforviews and system of the court of Peters- tune arising from the want of co-operation, burg. The general appeared to wish that he should iestify some degree of disconI should consider this answer as sufficiently tent. I replied, that we could not better satisfactory to authorize me to accept the serve the cause of Bonaparte, than by in mediation of his court. 1 observed in dulging in mutual recrimination on the reply, that it was difficult to conceive any past conduct of each government; that I articles of a peace between Russia and wished our whole attention should be turnFrance which did not directly or indirectly ed to the future, and that I was persuaded, concern Great Britain; but that I asked if the emperor of Russia still entertained the communication of the secret articles, his former opinions of the danger to be not only as an object which might affect apprehended from the preponderance of the interests of England, but as a mark of France, the cause of the independance of the continuance of that friendship and Europe was by no means desperate. confidence on the part of this court, which No. III.-Extract of a dispatch from could alone afford any prospect of good, the right hon. lord Granville Leveson from the acceptance of the mediation of Gower to Mr. Secretary Canning, dathe emperor of Russia ; that with the ted St. Petersburgh, 2d Sept. 1807.same view, I had proposed continuing the Received Sept. 19th. negociations begun by Mons. Alopeus, As general Budberg carefully avoided and that if his excellency had no autho- every allusion to the late transactions at rity at present to say any thing more satis- Copenhagen, during the interview which factory than what I had as yet heard from took place between us on Tuesday, I was him, I must request him to ask the per- somewhat surprised on the following mornmission of the emperor to communicate to ing to receive the note of which I have the me without reserve the secret articles of honour to enclose a copy.
In my answer, the treaty between Russia and France, and also inclosed, I have endeavoured to follow to empower him to continue the negocia- closely those among the reasons stated in tions, and conclude a treaty of commerce your dispatches, which I conceive likely with Great Britain. General Budberg | to prove the least offensive to this governpromised me, that he would lose no tiine ment, reserving other arguments for my in bringing these two requests under the first future conference with the minister. consideration of his imperial majesty. I (First inclosure referred to in No. 3.) have the honour, &c.
His majesty the emperor has just learn. GRANVILLE LEVESon Gower.ed with the utmost surprise by accounts No. II.-Extract of a dispatch from the from his minister at Copenhagen, as well
right hon. lord Granville Leveson as by a dispatch from his Danish maGower to Mr. Secretary Canning, jesty's minister at this court, that Mr. dated Saint Petersburgh, Sept. 2, 1807. Jackson, his Britannick majesty's Pleni-Received Sept. 19th.
potentiary, has made propositions as deroI had the satisfaction of finding last night, gatury to as incompatible with the dignity that a considerable change had taken place of every independent power, and that, upin the tone and temper of general Bud- on the refusal of the prince royal of Denberg's conversation. Instead of that cold, mark to accede to a pretension so extraorness and reserve which characterised the dinary, the English fleet has taken a posi