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glory; and a little lower on cach side a bearded figure with a glory round the head, seated in the

clouds, each holding a globe (apparently) in the I will be much obliged if any of your readers left hand, and a pencil or little ferule in the right, can tell me the name of the engraver of a favourite pointing upwards. On each side of these, in the old print in my collection, it being a proof before background, a host of little beads and faces are letters, without, consequently, the names of the seen ; and the lower compartment is filled up engraver and painter, which latter I should also with large figures, chiefly of men, also seated in wish to know. * Nor am I certain what to call the the clouds; the one in the centre holds


with subject, though I think it is probably Sterne's both hands, towards the figures at the top, a kind Maria. The print is an upright about sixteen of close vessel, perhaps the ark, and a woman is inches by ten, consisting of a single figure in the standing by him with outstretched arms, pointing foreground, reaching nearly the whole height of upwards with the right; others in the lower group the plate, of a pensive young maid in simple hold different things, and one in the right corner attire, standing on the ground in sandals, a sort of seems to rest bis arm, with a scroll in his hand, on mantle covering the back of her head, and falling the back of an eagle. There is a slight sketch of around her, forming a train at her feet; the right a landscape at the bottom, with two little arched arms and part of the breast and neck exposed, the buildings among trees. left arm round the neck of a kid or lamb lying On turning up Bryan's Dictionary, new edition, down on a flowing bank by her side at the root for Titian's etchings, all he says is that Bartsch has of a tree. The background consists of a pretty described cight prints attributed to him. Cn. CL. little distant landscape with a uniform roofed cot,

shepherd and flock of sheep. The work seems a good deal like Sir Robt. Strange's — the St.

KING MAGNUS' BURIAL-PLACE AT DOWNPATRICK. Agnes, for instance; but I do not see anything answering this description in any of Strange's In the course of last December I was induced, catalogues in my possession.

at the request of the committee of our mechanics' I have another print I should also be glad to be institute here, to deliver before the members a informed about, a much older one than the above, lecture on the “ History and Antiquities of the probably a Roman Catholic altar-piece. It con- Town and its Neighbourhood.” It is a subject sists of groups of figures in the clouds, the Madonna which, from the former importance of the place in the centre of the upper compartment, sur. as an episcopal see, and being one of the strongmounted with a number of little gels; a female holds of the English pale, required considerable rein the centre of the lower compartment, kneeling search, - much more, indeed, than I had then either before a child and angel; and on both sides, below opportunity or time to afford for its proper illusand above, a number of large figures, angels, tration. Not least amongst the interesting series monks, and friars, a pope, and a bishop, &c. of events in its history was its frequent invasions What appears curious, one of the ecclesiastics, in by the Danes or Northmen, and the death and the lower compartment, left-hand side, holds a burial of Magnus, king of Norway, early in te carbine or large pistol, having a crucifix on the twelfth century, either beside the cathedral church end of the barrel, instead of the usual sight; above or in its immediate vicinity. To ascertain the his left shoulder is an angel with a bunch of keys, place of that king's sepulture formed a subject of and a monk on the opposite side holds a cross in constant investigation ; but, as there was no traa wreath of flowers. The print is a good deal dition pointing it out, nor any place now called mutilated, and no margin left to show the exact Slat-Manus, or any similar designation, I was dimensions, or the names of engraver or painter. obliged to abandon the inquiry without any certain It is upright, about twenty-five inches by seven- conclusion, the authorities bearing on the subject teen. The execution is something like that of being so much at variance both in the description Caracci, but rather a coarse line engraving. of the scene of the battle and place of burial.

I would ascertain the subject of another fine I had, indeed, heard that M. WORSAAE, the old print, which I will describe. It is an upright, author of several works on Danish antiquities, twenty-one inches by sixteen and a half, dated had some years past been in this neighbourhood, 1566 in the right low corner, and in the left is and had pointed out a spot adjacent to the town, the name “ Titianus;" but I cannot say whether remote from the cathedral, as the place of burial, he is the engraver, as the paper is blotted where and which report I introduced into the lecture. the fecit should be looked for. Near the middle As I perceive M. WORSAAE is a correspondent at the bottom are two letters like M. R. or H. R., of "N. & Q.," the object of this letter is to ascerand also at a distance “ Cum privilegio.". In the tain whether he could afford any information as upper part of this print, in the centre, is a bird to this matter, or the other visits of the Northmen with expanded wings surmounted with rays or a to the county of Down, and whether he is aware

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that contained in the gunpowder at any depth, and I cannot help thinkChronicle of Man, Torfæus, Snorro, in Johnson's ing that in some kinds of fishing a moderate quan. Scandinavian Antiquities, Giraldus' Cambrensis, tity of powder exploded in the vicinity of the bait, and Dr. Hanmer. *If he bad any ancient Danish which might be at a small distance from it, would maps of this neighbourhood, doubtless they would “ astonish the natives” of the deep, and bring be of vast importance on this subject. I should them to the surface much more rapidly than could say that a very hurried and imperfect report of be accomplished by any method now in use. the lecture appeared in the columns of our local

LLEWILLAH. paper, extending through four successive numbers. I should feel much gratification in forwarding you

As salt as Fire. — Whence this saying ? R. H. or M. WORSAAE such portions thereof as

There were three ladies," &c. - My paternal now lay my bands on, particularly that relating to grandmother, who was a native of county Kerry King Magnus, should any desire to that effect be in Ireland, was in the habit of singing a song set expressed

Joun W. HANNA. to a sweet and plaintive air, which thus comSaul Street, Downpatrick, Ireland.

menced :
“ There were three ladies playing at ball,

Farin-dan-dan and farin-dan-dee;

There came a white knight, and he wooed them all, (Vol. iv., p. 240.)

With adieu, sweet boney, wherever you be. In Noake's Worcester in Olden Times, London,

He courted the eldest with golden rings,

Farin, &c. &c. 1849, p. 121., under the head of “Bells," I find the following passage:

And the others with many fine things,

And adieu," &c. &c. “ The popular notion of the curfew having originated in the odious tyranny of the Conqueror has been nega

The rest hias been forgotten. Can any of your tived by modern rescarch. Du Cange says that the readers furnish the remaining words ? UNEDA. ringing of the couvre-feu prevailed generally in Europe Philadelphia. during the middle ages as a precaution against fire. Voltaire also takes the same view of the custom.

Prophecies fulfilled. —A very interesting colHenry I. abolished his father's enactment, but the lection might be made of apparently well authencustom has survived to the present day, probably as

ticated prophecies fulfilled, concerning modern one of general convenience. So late as about 150 kingdoms and families of rank. That quoted by years ago a fire-bell was rung every evening at Vienna, your correspondent in Vol. iii., p. 194., wanis as a signal to the inhabitants to extinguish their fires, dates and details. Some curious instances might and to hang up lanterns in front of their houses. A be gathered from a true believer — Sir W. Scott few specimens of the couvre-feu are still in existence, in his Works, and in Lockhart's Life of him. Has some of them bearing marks of having covered the fire." any collection of this kind ever been published ? Upon this passage I would ask permission to

J. P. put two Queries : 1. What historical notices are there of a curfew & Q.” various requests concerning families, I

The Chase Family. — Having observed in “N. prior to the Conquest ?

would like to ask some information respecting the 2. At what places on the continent of Europe,

“Chase" family, three brothers of which emigrated besides Vienna, has the custom been ascertained

to America about the year 1630, and settled in to prevail? Your correspondent H. H. B. Vol

. the

vicinity of Newbury port, in Massachusetts ; iv., p. 240.) produces an instance of the curfew

their names were Aquila, Thomas, and William. bell being rung at Charlestown, South Carolina, Tradition says they came from Cornwall

, and also where, however, it is manifestly a custom intro

that the name was originally spelled “La Chasse," duced from the mother-country.” J. SANSON.

and that they were of Norman extraction, baving Oxford.

settled in England about the time of the Conquest.

As their descendants in the United States now Minor Queries.

number about 30,000 individuals, if those who

remained in England have been equally prolific, Fishing by Electricity. It is a well-known there must be many of the same name whio perfact that the discharge of gunpowder under water haps can give their trans-Atlantic cousins some is more powerful in its effects than when it is ex- knowledge of their ancestry. QUASCACUNQUEN. ploded in the atmosphere, and that a small dis

Philadelphia, June 14. charge will kill all the fish in the vicinity. I have a curiosity to ascertain whether it is possible to Mummies of Ecclesiastics in Germany. - I remake practical use of this fact in deep sea fishing. member having some conversation with a friend a By means of the gutta percha wire and the electric few years ago respecting some bodies which he fluid, it is extremely easy to convey and discharge had seen preserved in the church of some town,



of which I forget the name, on (I think) the it is to be seen, as such a work would be highly Rhine. They consisted of about twenty bodies of useful to all who feel an interest in heraldry ? monks ranged side by side, in a vault which was

John Nurse CAADWICK, open to the air; and it was alleged that the pe- King's Lynn. culiar character of the atmosphere had alone pre

Hands in the Pockets. –On looking over some served them in their then state, namely, as soft to transcripts I found the following, but without a the touch as in life, the only peculiarity being the reference as to what book it had been copied from. brownish hue of the face, which caused

my friend. Can you, or any of your correspondents, give me to suspect

that they had been baked. Can any of information where it can be found, or whether your correspondents refer me to

any information

you ever heard of such an observation ? on the subject ?

Α. Α.

“Whoever has passed through Braintree and BockAbridge, Essex.

ing in Essex, must have observed that the inhabitants The Merry-thought, or Wish-bone. — Whence have a custom of standing with their hands in their comes the custom of breaking the wish-bone or pockets. Not only men and boys, but even women merry-thought, with the attendant ceremony? are generally seen in that attitude. This seems to be

A. A. D. an old subject of observation, for I remember forty

years ago, when walking with my hands in my pockets, Bellson Horses' Necks. - Does this custom

I was asked by a friend whether I had been staying at exist in any county but Kent or Sussex?

A. C. Bocking." Dissertation on a Salt Box. - Where can I

C. de D. find a “Dissertation on a Salt Box," or

John de Huderesfield.Does the fame of John Logical Salt Box ?" I remember seeing it in a de Huderesfield, a civil engineer or architect of the magazine some thirty-five years ago; and, although time of Richard II., enable any correspondent to I have made many inquires, I have not been en- point to any great work of his, or account of him? abled to obtain a reference to it. J. Wn.

G. R. L.

Lyme Regis. Meaning of Alcohol.-Can you enlighten me as to the derivation of the word "alcohol;" or rather, John, King of France, at Somerton (Vol. v. I should say, as the first syllable almost of itself p. 505.). – In an interesting article, " A Journal proclaims it to be Arabic, what is the meaning of of the Expenses of John, King of France, in Eng, the word or words whence it is derived ?

land, 1359–60," the following places of confinement

A. E. S. of the monarch are mentioned: 1. Hertford Castle; Hip, hip, hurrah !" — What was the origin of 2. Somerton Castle, in Lincolnshire; and, lastly, this bacchanalian exclamation, and what does it the Tower of London. mean? I make the inquiry, although I annex an

I have a view of Somerton, in Somersetshire, attempt to define it, which was cut from the which I put with other antiquities, as it contains a columns of the Edinburgh Scotsman newspaper has it, upon the site of Somerton Castle, where

view of the Bear Inn, built, as Somerset history some years ago : " It is said that · Hip, hip, hurrahl' originated in which he was removed owing to the supposed cona

King John of France was confined, and from the Crusades, it being a corruption of H. E. P., the nexion of some landings of the French upon the initials of Hierosolyma est perdita" (Jerusalem is lost !), the motto on the banner of Peter the Hermit, south-western coast. Am I to understand that whose followers hunted the Jews down with the cry King Juhn never was confined at Somerton in of Hip, hip, hurrah !'"

Somersetshire ?

G. R. L. I never read elsewhere of such a motto being

Lyme Regis. upon the standards of the first Crusaders. Had

Tapestry from Richmond Palace.—In an inventhey any other motto than Dieu le volt? R. S. F. tory of the goods at Richmond Palace belonging Perth.

to Charles I., in the custody of Mr. Theobald Armorial Bearings of Cities and Towns: — It 5th October, 1649, and sold by order of the Council

Pierce, which were viewed and appraised on the will doubtless be in the memory of most of your of State, there is marked No. 1.: correspondents that a meeting of the mayors of every town in England was held in London about “ Ten pieces of Arras hangings of the Old and New the time of the Exhibition, and that at such meets Law, containing 727 ells at 21. 10s. per ell.—18171. 10s.” ing were displayed flags with the armorial bear- These were sold, on Thursday, October 23, 1651, ings of each town represented by their mayor; to Mr. Grinder, according to the appraisement. I and I shall be glad if any of your correspondents believe they were of the manufacture of Sir Francis can i form me whether there was published an Klein, at Mortlake; and I beg to be informed, account of such meeting, with the engraving of through the medium of the “N. & Q.,” where the

h town's armorial bearings; and, if so, where above tapestry is at the present time. AMICUS.

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" Prayer moves the hand,8c. Where are house for an academie," &c.; and Dec. 17, 1684, these lines to be found ?

he speaks of " Mons'. Foubert and his sonn, pro“ Prayer moves the hand

vost masters of ye academie :” this academy was That moves the universe."

between King Street and Swallow Street, now

C. G. L. ' Regent Street, where “Major Foubert's passage" Portrait of Oliver Cromwell.I have lately seen

commemorates it. In 1702 one Henry Foubert a fine three-quarter length painting of Oliver

was Equerry to Wm. III.; and Bromley gives Cromwell. It had been neglected for many years,

account of a portrait of “ Henry Foubert, Major and become covered with dirt and quite obscured;

and Equerry," and adds that he "died 1743." it was at last cleaned, and found to be a portrait Foubert

, resident in St. James's parish, West

In 1764 there was one Augustus Faubert, or of Oliver. I understand it was formerly in the possession of Lord Torrington, and bought amongst minster ; can any of your readers tell me whether some lumber at a sale of his.

the Henry Foubert, Equerry, 1702, is identical Can any of your readers give me any information with Henry Foubert, Major and Equerry, who with respect to the painter and history of this died 1743, and in what relationship (if any) he or portrait; and whether it be true, as I am in- they and Augustus Faubert or Foubert stood to formed, that one portrait of Cromwell is missing?

Mons. Foubert, and who Augustus married ?

A. F. Birthplace of Wickliffe. - Whitaker, in his Cambridge Disputations. - In the public dispuHistory of Richmondshire, quoting Leland's asser- tations held in the schools at Cambridge by cantion that Wickliffe was born at Spreswell, near didates for degrees (which disputations are now Richmond, in Yorkshire, supposes the place meant partially abolished), a species of syllogistic form to be Hipswell in that locality, and supports his was adopted, of the origin of which no account view by the fact of the existence there of a was ever given. In the only work I know of,

Whitcliff," whilst there never has been known a which professes to guide the student, Wesley's place called “Spreswell,” near Richmond. Query, Guide to Syllogism, London, 1832, small 8vo., not What authority is there to support the statement a word is said on the meaning and origin of the in the Biographical Dictionary (Chalmers) that form, which is as follows:the Reformer was born at Wickliffe, a village near Suppose that the two propositions, “A is B". Richmond, in 1324? and does the biographer mean and "c is D," lead to “E is f," which contradicts the place of that name on the Tees? The pedi- what the respondent is maintaining. The oppogree of Wycliffe of Wycliffe is given by Whitaker, nent then shaped his argument into three conbut does not mention the Reformer. Whitaker ditional syllogisms, thus : inclines to the Whitcliff on the Swale, but his “Si A sit B; cadit quæstio : reasons do not seem to be conclusive. It would

Sed a est B; ergo cadit quæstio. be interesting to have this question settled ; and I am sure there cannot be a more effectual way of

"Si c sit d; valet consequentia : gaining this end than to have the attention of the

Sed c est ; ergo valet consequentia. readers of "N. & Q." called thereto. SEVARG.

“Si igitur e sit F; valent consequentia et argu-, · Kilkenny,

Sed igitur E ist f; ergo valent consequentia et arReverend applied to the Clergy. - What is the gumentum." antiquity of and authority for the prefix of Reverend to the clergy? Is’ it not a mere term of the meanings of the terms quæstio, consequentia,

What is the meaning of this form ? What are courtesy (as Honourable applied to the children argumentum? Was this form common to schoof nobility), being an epithet unconnected with a title? One singularity is found in the usage that bridge? If the former, has it been correctly

lastic disputations, or was it confined to Cam.' clergymen employ it when speaking of themselves, placing it on their cards ; but is not this a modern preserved; or has the disuse of technical logic at practice? After searching many early sermon

Cambridge allowed it to become corrupt? In

what books has it been described ? books and works written by divines, I find Reverend is not usually placed before the name Tenure of Land. - Montholon, in his Memoirs of the author on the title-page. It will be under of Napoleon at Elba, records an observation of stood that there is no doubt as to the propriety of that great man, that, whenever the question of the appellation ; but is it a title conferred by the Tenure of Land shall be settled in England, authority, or only what Selden would call an she would become the greatest country in the “honorary attribute ?" M-N. world. Can any reader refer to that book, and

H. Foubert Family. — Evelyn mentions in his give the exact words used ? Diary, Sept. 17, 1681, that he “ went with Mons". Foubert about takeing ye Countesse of Bristoll's

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Courtier and learned Writer. - In an old devoMinor Queries Auswered.

tional work, entitled The Christian's Duty, pub“ To lie at the Catch.—In the discourse between lished originally in 1730, and lately republished at Faithful and Talkative, in Bunyan's Pilgrim's Rivingtons, I find the following passage at page 68. Progress, Talkative says, “You lie at the catch, I of the older edition, and page 72. of the more recent perceive;" to which Faithful replies, “No, not I: I am only for setting things right.” And again, in

“ Ah, my friends! while we laugh all things are the same conversation, Faithful says, “You lie at

serious round about us. God is serious, who exerthe catch again. This is not for edification.". Can ciseth patience towards us ; Christ is serious, who shed any of your readers kindly tell me what is the

His blood for us; the Holy Ghost is serious, wlio meaning of the expression, to lie at the catch ? striveth against the obstinacy of our hearts ; the Holy

M. D. Scriptures bring to our ears the most serious things in [In the Jerusalem Sinner Saved, Bunyan explains the

the world ; the Holy Sacraments represent the most meaning of the phrase, where he refers to those who

serious and awful matters; the whole creation is serious are living in sin, and yet expect to be saved by grace.

in serving God and us; all that are in heaven or bell “Of this sort are they that build up Zion with blood

are serious; how then can we be gay?" and Jerusalem with iniquity; that judge for reward, The author, or, I should rather say, compiler of and teach for hire, and divine for money, and lean upon the work which I first mentioned then proceeds in the Lord. This is doing things with a bigh hand the following terms : against the Lord our God, and a taking Him as it were at the catch! This is, as we say among men, to seek

“ To give these excellent words their full force (as a

learned writer says of them) it should be known that to put a trick upon God, as if He had not sufficiently fortified His proposals of grace by His Holy Word they came not from the priesthood, but the court, and against all such kind of fools as these."]

from a courtier as eminent as England ever boasted." Words printed in Italics in the Bible. — I may

Perhaps some of your numerous correspondents be only showing my ignorance if I ask, Why are

can inform you, and, through you, myself and

some friends who are interested in the success of numerous words printed in Italics in the Bible ?

R. H.

the work, 1. Who “the courtier mentioned as the

author" was? 2. Who the “learned writer” who [“ With regard to the words in the Bible printed in makes the remark was ?

T. BD. Italic characters, Dr. Myles Smyth, one of the two appointed Revisers of the authorized version, in the

(The “ learned writer" is Dr. Edward Young, author Preface to the first edition, published in 1611, gives his Sermon on « A True Estimate of Human Life,"

of the Night Thoughts, who has quoted the passage in the following reason for their use :• • Moreouer, whereas the necessitie of the sentence

Works, vol. v. p. 19., edit. 1774. The name of the required any thing to be added (for such is the grace

courtier is not given.] and propriete of the Ebrewe and Greeke tongues that t cannot, but either by circumlocution, or by adding the verbe or some word, be vnderstood of them that are

Replies. not well practised therein), wee baue put it in the text with an other kinde of letter, that it may easily bee discerned from the common letter.'" — Savage's Dic- (Vol. iii., pp. 260. 437. 461.; Vol. iv., pp. 13. 344. lionary of Printing, p. 39.]

392.; Vol. v., pp. 86. 258.) Bays's Troops. – In a curious collection of

There never was any difference of opinion in the essays entitled Something New, London, 1772, United States, among those who have paid any occurs the following passage. The essayist is attention to the subject, concerning the origin of describing a case of reanimation:

the word Yankee. It is believed to have been de“For dead men, as it seems, may rise again, like rived from the manner in which the Indians en Bays's troops, or the savages in the Fantocini.” deavoured to pronounce the word English, which

Who was Bays, and what was the incident al. they rendered Yeng hees, whence the word Yankee. luded to ?

T. STERNBERG. The statement in Irving's Knickerbocker's History [The allusion is to a scene in the Fifth Act of the of New York, concerning the tribe of Yankoos, is a

mere joke: and the suggestion of your corresponRehearsal, by G. Villiers, Duke of Buckingham, A. D. 1672, where a battle is fought between foot and great from the New York Gazetteer, that the Yankoos

dent R. H., in the present volume of “ N. & Q.," hobby-horses. At last Draucansit comes in, and kills 'em all on both sides." Smith then gravely asks, –

were so indomitable that the Puritans of New “ But, Mr. Bayes, how shall all these dead men go England, after subduing them, adopted their name, off? for I see none alive to help them.

according to an Indian custom which gave the Bayes. Go off! why, as they came on ; upon their name of the conquered to the conquerors, is not legs : how should they go off? Why, do you think to be relied upon, as no history of New England ile people do not know they are not dead ?")

makes any mention of that redoubtable tribe; nor


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