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Notes. NOTES :

Page Ordeals

ORDEALS. Poetical Similarities, by C. Mansfield Ingleby

70 Folk Lore:- Northumberland Tradition - Weather

Ordeals, as the test of innocence or guilt, are of Prophecy - St. Mark's Eve - Children's Nails - great antiquity In the Book of Numbers v. 14 Cheshire Cure for Hooping Cough - Sites of Build- 31., the rite of the "waters of jealousy" appears

ings changed, &c. Buchanan and Theodore Zuinger


to give them a Divine sanction. The idea was, Minor Notes ; -The Word Handbook - Bitter Beer however, common to the ignorance and supersti

Slaves in Ireland not a Century ago - Book Margius tion of all countries. Gaseous springs were among -Lord Derby or Darby


some tribes supposed to possess the power of deLunar Occultations

73 tecting truth, either by increasing or mitigating " The Good Old Cause," by Thomas H. Gill

in bodily afflictions upon immersion. In the case of Minor Queries :- Winchfeld, Hants –“Balnea, vina, guilt, their beneficent effects were turned into a

Venus "-" Kicking up Mag's or Meg's Diversion
Shan-dra-dam – Kentish Fire - Incantations at Cross

curse ; as the wine of Mephistopheles becomes a Roads - Odyllic Light - Trochilus and Crocodile - consuming fire to the drunken student. Ordeal Pick igni – Heywood Arms - Mémoires d'une Con. temporaine - Drawbridge – Saul's Seven Days

by fire was known to the Greeks: nine others of Coudras Family -- " Oh, go from the window !" various kinds were sanctioned by the Brahmins. The Furneaux Family - Personators of Edward VI. Fire is also mentioned in early Scandinavian songs. - Barlaam's Commentary on Euclid - Venice Glasses

Styles of Dukes and Marquises - Who was Colonel This custom, mingled with other orientalisms, Bodens? -“ Who sent the Messengers ? "

passed probably into Europe during the migration MINOR QUERIES ANSWERED: St. Margaret and the

of those northern hordes by which it was succesDragon - Montebourg, Abbey of — Virgilian Lots Newspaper Extracts

76 | sively overrun. Some interesting literary anecREPLIES :

dotes relative to the ordeals of the Middle Ages Portrait of Mary Queen of Scots, by James Spedding 78 will be found in the article under that heading in A Passage in “ As You Like It," by Sainuel Hickson 79

the Encyclopædia Metropolitana. The object of Listing Experiment, by Sir David Brewster, &c.

these Notes is merely to refute, by an extract, the Monody on the Death of Sir John Moore, by C. H. Cooper, &c.

80 opinion sometimes entertained, — that the Church War of indicating Time in Music, by Dr. Edward F. invented and encouraged this method of trial. The Rimbault


worst that can be said is, that the Church adopted, The Two Passages in “ King Lear"

that it might control for its own ends, as it did Amber Witch Lines on Succession of the Kings of England

other cases, that blind faith it could not purify: Dodo Queries, by W. Pinkerton

L'esprit de parti a quelquefois accusé l'Église Burials

d'avoir imaginé ces moyens barbares et insensés de Dr. Cumming on Romans viil., by J. C. Robertson


connaître la vérité; - jamais accusation ne fut plus On some disputed Passages in Shakspeare, by S. W. Singer

84 injuste." Replies to Minor Queries : - Milton and Tacitus Ernaciated Monumental Effigies -- La Garde meurt

This is the opinion of M. Ampère, Histoire Lit. Baxter's “ Saints' Rest" - The Bright Lamp that téraire, tome iii. p. 180.: shone in Kildare's holy Fane" - Exterior StoupHenry, Lord Viscount Dover - Government of St. “L'Église, au contraire, dès le go siècle, protestait Christopher in 166? - De Sanctå Cruce - History of Commerce Physiologus -" Veiwe Bowes " - The

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to the Histoire Littéraire de la France, tome x. page 450., shows the continuance of this policy, and that whilst the Church condemned, it still em

I beg to send you a few odus and ends in

illustration of what seems to be an inevitable ployed the ordeal in the twelfth century:

consequence of writing poetry, viz. unconscious “Un fameux voleur nommé Ansel, ayant pris des imitation : croix, des calices d'or, porta son vol chez un marchand

1. Pope's line, in his Essay on Man: de Soissons pour le lui vendre, et lui fit promettre avec serment qu'il ne le déclareroit point. Le mar.

« What thin partitions sense from thought divide !" chand ayant ensuite entendu prononcer l'excommuni- | is merely a verbal echo of Dryden's line in bis cation dans l'église de Soissons contre les complices Absalom and Achitophel : de ce vol, vínt à Laon et découvrit la chose au clergé.

“And thin partitions do their bounds divide.” Ansel nie le fait : le marchand propose de se battre pour en décider.

Ansel l'accepte, et tue le marchand. 2. Milton's expression of orient pearl, at the Il faut, dit sur cela Guibert Abbé de Nogent, ou, que beginning of the second book of Paradise Lost, is le marchand ait mal fait de découvrir un secret qu'il probably

taken from Shakspeare, Richard III., avait promis avec serment de garder, ou, ce qui est

Act IV. Sc. 4.: beaucoup plus vrai, que la loi de se battre pour décider

“ The liquid drops of tears that you have shed de l'innocence et de la vérité est injuste. ( ar il est cer- Shall come again transform'd to orient pearl." tain, ajoute-t-il, qu'il n'y a aucune canon qui autorise une telle loi."

I have never seen this resemblance noted.

3. And while I am on the subject of tears I · Nevertheless, it was employed in the case of will mention a similarity between Tennyson and some Paulician heretics, in the diocese of Soissons.

Milton. In the Miller's Daughter we have : Clementius and Eyrard were examined

“ And dews that would have fallen in tears “Mais l'évêque ne pouvant tirer la confession de leurs

I kisz'd away before they fell." erreurs, et les temoins étunt absens, il les condamna au

Very pretty, no doubt, but to my mind evidently jugement de l'eau exorcisée. Le prélat dit le messe, à suggested by a most exquisite passage in the fifth laquelle il communia les accusés, en disant: Que le book of the Paradise Lost, which is in every one's corps et le sang de notre Seigneur soit ajourd'hui une

mouth: épreuve pour vous !”

“ Two other precious drops that ready stood Clementius was thrown in; but

Each in their crystal sluice, he ere they fell

Kiss'd." # Loin d'aller au fonds de l'eau, il surnagea comme un roseau, et fut tenu pour convaincu !"

4. What a wholesale imitation of Thomson's

Castle of Indolence do we find in Campbell's Ger. I was assured a miracle of this description was trude of Wyoming. Thus, Gertrude of Wyoming, lately witnessed in the person of a very fat lady, Part II. St. XII. : who floated on the surface of the National Bath at

“ But stock-doves plaining through its gloom profound." Holborn, in spite of the repeated efforts of the bath-woman to keep her down. Clementius, un,

Evidently imitated from Castle of Indolence,

Cant. I. St. iv.: fortunately, only fulfilled the proverb “of falling out of the fire-pan into the fire." Whilst the “ Or stock-doves plain amid the forest deep." bishop hesitated as to his orthodoxy, the mob Again, Gertrude of Wyoming, Part II. St. xxv.: determined that question, broke into the prison,

beyond and burnt him and his brother. The ordeal died

Expression's power to paint, all languishingly fond." away as civilisation spread and legal institutions were established. It has been said, indeed, it was

Which is very similar to Castle of Indolence,

Cant I. St. xliv.: abolished in England in the 3rd of Henry III., A. D. 1219, by an ordinance of the King in Council,

“ As loose on flow'ry beds all languishingly lay." as given in Rymer, vol. i. p. 228. This seems, With your permission, I will send you a few however, an “ad interim" order, made because Notes on Milton's Lycidas, which appear to me to that the ordeal of fire and water was condemned be worthy of attention. C. MANSFIELD INGLEBY. by the Church. I may add, that in the Bibl. Mar.

Patrum, tome xiii., two very interesting tracts by
S. Agobard will be found; one, p. 429.,
versus legem Gundlobaldi;" the other at p. 476.,

FOLK LORE. contrà “ Judicium Dei;” upon which J. Grimm, Northumberland Tradition.-- Joaney or Johnny Deutsche Rechts Alterthümer, vol. ii. p. 909., should


Reeil, the parish clerk of a village near Newcastle, be consulted.

S. H.

was returning home one evening, and in passing a Athenæum.

gate by the roadsiile marvelleit much to see vine cats about it. His wonder wils changed to horror

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when one of the cats addressed him, “ Joaney Reed, on no account whatever is any payment or comJoaney Reed, tell Dan Ratcliffe that Peg Powson pensation to be made directly or indirectly for the is dead.” Joanev hurried home to his wife, and cake. My informant has the firmest belief in this instantly informed ber of the circumstance, won- specific, he himself having witnessed, in the case of dering at the same time who Dan Ratcliffe might his own child, the beneficial result; but he took be; when up sprang ihe cat from the hearth, and care to mention, as probably an advantage, that exclaiming "It'Peg Powson's dead, it's no time for the cake which cured his child was made by a me to be here," rushed out of the house and was woman whose mother had also married her name. P. P. sake.

F. R. A. Weather Prophecy. -- G. E. G. has not yet had Sites of Buildings changed, fc.—There are other the answer to his inquiry about “oaks and ashes." churches in Lancashire besides Winwick whose The proverb is,

sites have been changed by the Devil, and he has “ If the oak's before the ash,

also built some bridges ; that at Kirkby Lonsdale Then you'll only get a splasli.

owes much of its beauty to the string of his apron If the ash precedes the oak,

giving way when he was carrying stones in it. Then you may expect a soak."

The stones may be seen yet in the picturesque The present wet summer gives the lie to the adage, groups of rock below the bridge. Old cross or for the oaks were out first.

P. P. boundary stones, with a hole full of water, are so St. Mark's Eve (Vol. iv., p. 470.). - Your cor

common that nobody honours them with a plague respondent Mr. Peacock bns alluded to a popular story; but we abound in other traditions. Åcsuperstition respecting St. Mark's Eve which bas cording to some a priest, according to others the interested me very much. I cannot help quoting Devil, stamped his foot into the church wall at Collins' lines upon the same subject, and shall Brindle, to prove the truth of Popery; and much thank MR. Peacock, or any of your other

"George Marsh the Martyr" did the same at correspondents learned in Folk Lore, to adduce Smithells Hall to prove the truth of Protestantism : some additional instances :

the foot-marks still remain on the wall and the " Be mine to read the visions old

flag. There is unfortunately such a wearisome Which thy awakening bards have told ;

saineness in these traditions, one story doing for so And, lest thou meet my blasted view,

many different places (except that at Winwick it Hold each strange tale devoutly true;

was as a pig, at Leyland as a cat, somewhere else Ne'er be I found, by thee o'eraw'd,

as a fish, that Satan played his pranks), that any On that thrice-hallow'd eve, abroad,

attempt to gather them together for “N. & Q." When gliosts, as cottage maids believe,

would only tire out the editor and all his readers.
Their pebbled beds pernitted leave;
And goblins haunt, from fire, or fen,
Or inine, or food, the walks of inen !"

Ode to Fear. Bishop Horne, in his Commentary upon Psalm

Rt. cxxii., involves me in rather a dilemma. He says: Warmington.

“ Theodore Zuinger, of whom some account may be Children's Nails. - It is a general belief among found in Thuanus, when he lay on his death-bed, took the common people in this neighbourhood (Boto his leave of the world, in a paraphrase on the foregoing tesford Moors), that if a child's finger nails are cut psalm; giving it the same turn with that given to it before it is a year old, it will be a thief. Before above. It may serve as a buished specimen of the that time they must be bitten off when they re

noble and exalted use which a Christian may, and quire shortening EDWARD Peacock, Jun. ought to, make of the Psalms of David,"

And in the note he says: Cheshire Cure for Hooping Cough. - Whilst

" A learned friend has obliged me with a copy of passing a short time in the neighbourhood of ihese Latin verses of Zuinger, transcribed from the Alderley in Cheshire, I found, among other in- 303rd page of Vice Germanorum Medicorum, by. Melstances of Folk Lore prevailing there, ile propriety cbior Adainus. They are as follow : of communicating to the bees the death of any of

1. the family keeping lives. I learnt also anoiher

“ O Lux candida, lux mibi case, that of a speedy and efficacious cure for the

Læti conscia transitus ! troublesome complaint the hooping cough, which

Pro Christi meritum patet I think ought to be put on record for the comfort

Vitæ porta beatæ. of all mothers and children. The remedy consists in a plain currant cake, to be eaten by the afflicted

“ Me status revocat dies child, the main virtue of which cake is, however,

Augustain Domini ad domum : in its being made by a woman wlose maiden naine

Jam sacra ætherii premam was the same as that of the man she married ; and

Lætus linina templi,


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