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Die Martis 13° Jprilis, 1725.

Bill for regulating Elections within the city
of London, and for preserving the Peace,
good Order and Government of the said
City, being read the third Time,

It was proposed to ask the Opinion of the Judges,

whether this Bill does repeal any of the Prescrip-

ticSSs, Privileges, Customs or Liberties of the City

of London, restored to them, or preserved by the

Act palsed in the second Year of King William

and Queen Mary, for reversing the Judgment in a

Quo Warrant!) against the City of London, and for

restoring the said City to its ancient Rights and


Which being objected to, and Debate had there-


The Question was put, whether

Contents 24 the Judges shall deliver their Opi-

Not cont. 38 nions upon the said proposed Que-


It was resolved in the Negative.


lft, Because it being enacted and declared by the

Act mentioned in the Question, That the Mayor,
Commonalty, and Citizens of London, shall for ever
hereafter remain, continue, and be, and prescribed
to be, a Body-Corporate, in re facto 6? nomine, by
the Name of Mayor, and Commonalty and Citizens
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6lbly, Because we are of Opinion, that the Pe-
tition of the many Thousand Freemen of the City
against this Bill ought to be a sar greater Weight
against this Bill, than the Petition of Fifteen Al-
dermen for it; and that the Confusion which may-
arise from this Bill, if passed into a Law, may tend.
greatly to the future Disturbance of his Majesty's
wife and gentle Government.

V/bartcn, Straffcrd, Coventry,

Die Luna 190 Jprilis, 1725.

Hodie 33 vice lecla eft Billa, entitled, An Act for

redeeming the Annuities of Twenty-sive thousand

Pounds per Annum charged on the Civil-List Re-

venues by an Act of the seventh Year of his Ma-

jesty's Reign, and for discharging the Debts and

Arrears due from his Majesty to his Servants,

Tradesmen, and others.

The Question was put, whether this Bill shall


It was resolved in the Affirmative.


Because this Bill is to raise a great Sum of Mo-

ney, which will, as we apprehend, become a Bur-

then upon thePublick, and increase that immense

Load of Debt, which is already above Fifty Mil-

lions, and therefore, in our Opinions, require the

utmost Application to diminish it, and cannot but

give us the most melancholy Prospect, whenever,

especially in a Time of Peace and Tranquility, we

find any Addition is made to it; and since his Ma-

testy's Revenue, when first settled, was thought suf-

ficient by the Parliament to answer all the necessary

Expences of his Civil Government, and is larger,,

as we conceive, than that of his Predecessors; and

since that Revenue has once already, and not long

ago, received an Aid of the like Sum, we think

we were fully justified in expecting an Account of


the Reasons of contracting so great a Debt; and because that was refused to be laid before us, we are of Opinion, we cannot discharge our Duty to our Country, if we should thus uninformed, and in the Dark, give our Consent to this Bill, which being the second of this Kind within a short Compass of Time, we apprehend may prove of the more pernicious Example.

Strajford, Bruce, Beyle.

T>ie Luna 26° Apr His, 1725.

The Commons having brought up a Replication to the Answer of Thomas Earl of Macclesfield to their Articles of Impeachment against him. . A Question was proposed and stated for appointing his Lordship's Trial on Thursday Sevennight at the Bar of the House.

And, . the Question being put, Contents 59 whether those Words [at the Bar of NotCont. t 7 the House] shall stand Part of the Question? It was resolved in the Affirmative. Dissentient

1st, Because we are of Opinion, that it highly concerns the Honour and Dignity of this House, in all Cases of Impeachments, that the Trial should be had in the most publick and solemn Manner, that being most suitable to the Laws and Constitutions of this Kingdom in all Cases whatsoever, but is more especially requisite in a Prosecution of die Commons of Great-Britain begun and carried on by their Representatives in Parliament: 1 for which Reasons we think, that this Trial ought to be had in Westminsler-YlaW, and not at the Bar of the House, where it is impossible, as we conceive, to provide Room and other Conveniencies for the Attendance of the House os Commons, and such others


of the Subjects of this Kingdom who may be desirous to be present at this 1 rial.

idly, We are of Opinion, that it is a Justice due to the Earl who is impeached, to give him the Opportunity of vindicating himself, and to assert his Innocence in the most publick Manner imaginable, the Crimes wherewith he is charged by this Impeachment being of that Nature as render it, as we conceive^ most desirable, and even necessary, on his Part, to give universal Satissaction of his Innocence in a Cafe wherein his Honour, and that of his Posterity, are so highly concerned.

^d!y, We are of Opinion, that it is of great Moment to the Honour and Dignity of the Crown, the Fountain of Justice, that the Trial of this Impeachment should be had in that Place which may be most satissactory to the whole Nation, because the Articles, whereby the Earl stands impeached, relate to the Administration of the Publick Justice of the Kingdom, and consists of Facts and Matr ters charged on him whilst he was Lord High Chancellor, and as such was intrusted by his Majesty with the Execution of the most eminent Office and Station concerning the Administration of Justice.

^.tbly, Because we observe that the Earl impeached has, in his Defence, by his Answer, in some Degree involved the Honour of many great Personages, Peers of this Realm, and others, some living, and others long since deceased, but whose Descendants are now Peers and Members of this House, in the Consideration of the Matters and Crimes charged on himself; which Circumstance of the Defence being, as it seems to us, in the Opinion of the Earl, material to be examined into upon the Trial, we are of Opinion, that in this Respect also, the Place of Trial is become of more Importance and most proper to be in Weftminfter-HM,


and not at the Bar of this House, where the Examinations must unavoidably, as we conceive, be less publick, and in that Respect less satissactory.

gtbly, It appearing to us by several Reports delivered to this House by his Majesty's Direction, which relate to the Administration of the Justice of die High Court of Chancery, whilst the said Earl was Lord Chancellor, That there are very great Deficiencies of the Money and Effects belonging to Orphans and Widows, and others the Suitors of the Court; which Money and Kffects were brought into the Court, or into the Hands of the Masters in Chancery; and which Deficiencies, as they appear to us, amount to a great many Thousand Pounds, as yet wholly unsatisfied and unsecured; for this Reason, we are of Opinion, that it is necessary for the Publick, Satissaction, and particularly of the Suitors concerned, that his Trial should be had, not only in the most solemn Manner, but in the most publick Place alsof

6thly, We do not find, that any Impeachment of the Commons has been tried at the Bar of this House, or in any other Place than in WestminsterHall, since the Restoration of King Charles the Second, and before that Period, the Impeachment of the Earl pf Strafford was tried in PFeJimmfler-HaW; we find also, that, since the Restoration, every Peer which has been tried by this House, either upon an Impeachment or an Indictment, has had his Trial in Weftmiujier-Ha\\, and not at the Bar of this House; and some Time after the late Revolution, private Persons impeached by the Commons, for Frauds and Cheats relating to the Lutjiring Company, and private TrafHck, were appointed by this House to be tried in JVeJiminJier-HaM; the Impeachment of Dr. Sachcverell, for Misdemeanors committed in the Pulpit, was tried there also: for jyhich Reasons we are of Opinion, that this Imr k peachment

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