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(or about the apparent diameter of the sun or moon) KILMESTON MANOR House.—I seek information to the north ward of Venus. It is obvious that concerning the old manor house of Kilmesthere is the same fundamental objection to the ton, Hants, seven miles east of Winchester, four acceptance of this theory as in the case of the miles south of Alresford, not far from Tichborne, other conjunctico, to which I referred in ‘N. & Q.,' and the battle-field of Cheriton. This was lately 66 S. vii. 4. How could a conjunction of planets, the property of Mr. Walter Long, of Preshore, or any star in the astronomical sense of the word, and previously was in the bands of a family called appear to stand over a particular house, as seen by Ridge. The house is apparently Jacobean. Who those who were near it! Nor is it any con- were the original owners; and what is its history? firmation of this view (as might seem to be at

TAUPE. first sight) that Jupiter and Venus were visible in the eastern heavens about the time of their con; of sea-gulls which were flying in Chelsea reach

STORMY PETREL. — Among the great numbers junction. For by seeing the star in the East,” during the present frost, there was at least one the Magi probably meant that they saw

it when stormy potrel, which, curiously enough, was bobthey left their home in the East. It is impossible bing up and down over and on the little waves to place the nativity of Christ so early as B.C. 6, cansed by the easterly wind in the very place consistently with Luke iii. 23 ; and I must remain where the two whales appeared who came up the of opinion that it occurred in the

late antumn of Thames at the time of the Naval Exhibition. Is B.C. 5.

W. T. LYNN. Blackheath,

the petrel a frequent visitor to the metropolis !

S. P. A.
WATER MILL.-Can you or any of your

readers We must request correspondents desiring information direct me to the German original of a short but on family matters of only privato interest to affix their clever poem on the water mill, the refrain of names and addresses to their queries, in order that the which, according to a MS. translation I have angwers may be addressed to them direct.

seen, is,

The mill will never grind DORSET MARRIAGE LICENCES.-Can any reader

With the water that has passed ? of N. & Q.'inform me if there are any allegations

G. B. P. on the granting of marriage licences for the county

Athenæum Club. of Dorset from 1780 to 1810 in existence—if so, wbero—other than a small bundle, dated in the on a pavement in the Roman city of Thamugas

A VIEW OF LIFE.—I found the following grafito years 1802 and 1803, which is now in the registry (mod. Timegad), Algeria, lately exhumed by the at Blandford ? The registry was broken into at the French Government : “ Uepari lauari lvdere ridere time of the Reform Riots in 1831, when a large occ est uiuere." I wonder what would-be viveur number of public papers were destroyed.

can have written it. One who was old enough and W. J. G.

rich enough to have such experience of high life Crouch End,

would scarcely have sat down on the steps of the PERSSE FAMILY.-Will some genealogical reader Forum to give this vent to his enthusiasm with of ‘N. & Q! be so kind as to let me know what hammer and chisel. Was it a schoolboy emulous arms are borne by the Persse family of Mogode, of the prowess of big brothers; or some Tittlebat and of Roxborough, co. Galway? Though they Titmouse out for a holiday, and dreaming himself are a fairly old and certainly well-known family in the possessor of 10,0001. a year ? One scarcely that county, I can find their arms neither in Burke's dares to suggest that the h-less ncc may smack * Landed Gentry'nor in the 'General Armory.'

of the City apprentice. Possibly the words are & KATHLEEN WARD. quotation. Does any one know?

O. B. Mount. LINES ON TENNYSON.'—Will any one who possesses Mortimer Collins's 'Letters to Mr. Dis

GROTTO AT MARGATE, Could any correraeli' be kind enough to copy for me some lines spondent give me information about the soon Tennyson which occur in it?

called grotto at Margate! Were not shell grottoes TANG JE POVS.

rather a fashionable fancy at the time of Horace

Walpole; and were they as elaborate as this speciARMS.—Could any reader of N. & Q.' tell me men?

D. TOWNSHEND. what are the arms of the family of Purscombe; and of what families the following three coats are

MORETON FAMILY.—I am desirous of filling up the arms : (1) Gu., a chevron between 3 pears or ; the gaps from William, And, and Sarah Moreton (2) Arg., a chevron between torteaux az.; (3) Gu., to the Visitation. William and Ann stated to my 3 harts trippant or ?

father that they were cousins to the first Lord F. B. D. BICKERSTSAFFE-DREw. Ducie, who died in 1735. On the back of an old 5, Holyrood Place, The Hoe, Plymouth.

letter I have a pen-and-ink sketch of the following

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arms and crest :-On a bend three buckles, and in and storehouse" of pirates. He gives many sugthe left top corner of the shield a rose. Crest, a gestions for destroying their traffic, and fall pargoat's head. William Moreton, of Upper Gower ticulars of their chief haunts, and deprecates Street, and Southgate, Middlesex, a merchant of clemency on the king's part when any were London, died Sept. 29, 1834, aged seventy-five, apprehended.

H. married Sophia - and had issue a son, William Coulson Moreton, Captain 2nd Life Guards, and

TITAE COMMUTATION AWARDS.-Can any reader 13th Light Dragoons, married at Hampton, Feb. 10, of ‘N. &Q.’tell me whether the evidences adduced 1810, Elizabeth, daughter of W. Griffen boofe ; she during

the course of commutation, as to prescripdied Oct. 27, 1865, aged seventy-five. Capt. tion, exemption, &c., are still preserved anywhere; Moreton died' March 9, 1862, aged seventy-five, and whether they are congultable, on payment of a and left issue Charles, Willium, Henry, and Eliza fee or otherwise? The documents would have, of beth, who are all dead. Ann, the sister of William, course, only an historical interest, as having afforded married about 1779, John Coulson, who died in the Commissioners the facts on which they based

W. C. W. 1780, aged thirty, and left issue a son and daughter, their definitive apportionment. Mrs. Coulson married secondly Thomas Bettes- MEDIEVAL DIPTYCAS OF THE DECALOGUE.-Is worth, of Billingsburst, Sussex, & merchant of there any medieval diptych known to exist among London, and who died in 1795, aged forty-five, the art treasures of Jewish synagogues or of Mrs. Bettesworth died in 1844, aged eighty-five. Christian churches, upon which the Ten ComAnother sister of William (Sarah ?), married

mandments are inscribed, either in Hebrew or in Smith, of Sydenham, Kent, and left issue. These the Greek or Latin version, to serve as a record of Moretons are all buried in a vault in Hornsey the two talbets given to Moses on Mount Sinai ? Churchyard. Any information relating to this

Z. family will be very acceptable.

J. C. 51, Marlborough Hill, London, N.W.

“ COMMENCED M. A."—What is the meaning of Z. COZENS.—Can any of your readers give me known 'Athena Cantabrigienses,' e. g.,

this phrase, which is often used in Cooper's well

George information respecting Z. Cozens, who is men

M. commenced M.A. in 1542 ?” E. MASON. tioned in the Bibliotheca Cantiana 'as the author of twelve contributions to the Gentleman's Maga- Blow Family.-Would you kindly give me zine, chiefly on Kentish antiquarian matters, and some information about the Blow family prior to the also of A Tour through the Isle of Thanet, and year 1694, at which time they came to Belfast to some of the parts of East Kent,' pp. 507, 4to., start the printing trade in that town? I believe Nicholls, London, 1793? Singular to say, there is they came from either Fife or Perthshire. There no account of him in the new Dictionary of is å tradition that the name was changed from National Biography. of his chief work I am Johnstone to Blow after one of the old clan fights ; told there are only fourteen copies extant, the rest if this is so, could you give me the date and place ! having been burnt. C. S. F.

J. C. M. B. PORTRAIT MINIATURE.— I have a very beautiful TENNYSON AND THE GEM.' – Mr. Henry J. and perfect miniature by Oliver, of a gentleman, Jennings, in bis popular biography of Lord Tennyanno 1629, with fine lace collar, gold chain, son, states, “The Gem' for 1831 contained three strongly marked features, reddish brown hair, of his poems, in one of which, entitled 'No More,' pointed close beard. On his right cheek is the may be traced the germ of Violet's song in 'The scar of a great sword.cut. Is there any chance of Princess.' In my copy of 'The Gem,' 1831, there identifying the person represented ? J. C. J.

are only two puems, 'No More' and 'Anacreontics,' MAINWARING'S DISCOURSE OF PIRATES.'-I

acknowledged by A. Tennyson, Esq.

W. A. HENDERSON. shall gladly learn if the MS. hereunder mentioned

Dublin. has been printed, and whether anything is known of the author or the circumstances which led to its TAE Hollow SWORD-BLADE COMPANY.-This composition. Folio MS. of twenty-four leaves (in company purchased estates in Ireland early in the contemporary bandwriting) entitled

last century.

What was the peculiarity of these A Discourse written by 8" Henrie Mainwaringe knight sword-blades; and what is briefly the history of the and by him presented unto Kinge James Ano D'ni 1618 company?

W. 8. PATTERSON. wherein are disc ver«d the beginninges and proceedinges Belfast. of Pyrats, wib theire veuall places of aboad at all tymes of the Yeare, together wth his advise and direction for Stewart's Rooms were in Piccadilly. What Burprisinge and suppressinge of them.

partThe Rev. J. Brand's books were sold there The pirates alluded to were Englishmen, many of about 1835; and Dr. Gossett was examining before whom hailed from the mouth of the Thames. But purchase a Latio Dictionary in three volumes, folio. Mainwaring says that Ireland was the “nursery He found two leaves folded together, and in them

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a 501. note and a portrait of Lady Carve. He 2. “The early education of both was neglected.” handed them to the auctioneer, The print brought Prof. TOMLINSON has bere the support of Rowe's 251. Was the lady, née Magaret Smith, of any biography and Ben Jonson's "small Latin and less note? The executors gave Dr. Gossett the Diction Greek”; but against them is the preponderating ary, worth seven guideas. C. A. WARD. evidence of Shakespeare's own work. Take 'Venus Chingford Hatch, E.

and Adonis,” “the first heire of my invention "; "IMITATION OF CHRIST.'-Would some reader

'Lucrecre,' the Sonnets, and his earlier dramatic of ‘N. & Q.' be good enough to give the full title- works

are they the work of bizarre genius, of page of an edition of the above, printed in Dublin, accumulated wisely in his adolescent days, or he

some clever sciolist ? Surely not! He must have between the years 1843 and 1857 ? This edition could never have scattered so exuberantly in his has a short life of Thomas à Kempis, with practical reflections on the text of each chapter, with short years of labour. His early works are packed with

evidences of refined education, of studied restraint, prayer, pp. xxiv, 488, 8vo.

S. H.

of correct classical information. In bis early manDublin,

hood he evidently moved among men of learning, VERSES BY WHITTIER.-In which of Whittier's for Meres, M.A., tells how sonnets of bafiling poems do the lines occur:

subtlety and exquisite beauty were dispersed by A dreary place would be this earth

him among his private friends; while the purpose Were there no little people in it?

of ‘Love's Labour's Lost'—to ridicule the pedantic And also the lines :

methods of the existing schools of learning and Oh what would the world be to us

the coteries of culture-satisfy that bis education If the children were no more?

was fully "up to date.” For want of space I

G. C. S. would refer the unconvinced to J. Russell Lowell's AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED.

brilliant essay, 'Shakespeare Once More.'

3. “Neither of them was happily married." Even from that day misfortune dire, As if for violated faith,

Molière was married at forty to a girl of eighteen; Pursued him with relentless step,

Shakespeare was wedded at eighteen to a lady Vindictive still for Hotspur's death,

nine years his senior. Molière was manifestly unThey have been attributed to Scott.

happy. But was Shakespeare? There is not a MACROBERT.

tittle of satisfactory evidence to prove that Shake" And marked the conquered Patriot's pensive brow speare's marriage was a failure. The disparity of when Cæsar's triumph thronged the streets of Rome."

ages, the marriage licence, and the “second best L. G.

bed,” prove pothing; while his love of home, his

amazingly beautiful characterization of female Beplies.

character, his attitude towards marital alliance,

as displayed in his works, rather favour a life of SHAKSPEARE AND MOLIERE,

connubial satisfaction. J. 0. Halliwell-Phillipps (8th S. ii. 42, 190, 294, 332, 389, 469.) remarks on this subject :Parallelism has been, since the days of Plutarch, “Whether the early alliance was a prudent one in a a favourite device of biographers

. Fascinating as wordly point of view may admit of doubt, but that the the practice is, both to the writer and his readers, married pair continued on affectionate terms, until they a captious critic will bave little difficulty in fiod from the early local tradition that his wife did earnestly

were separated by the poet's death, may be gathered ing occasion to challenge the relevancy or truth of desire to be laid in the same grave with him.' The legacy lines or points of resemblance. More especially to her of the second best bed is an evidence which does is this the case with Shakespeare, where so little is not negative the later testimony." — Outlines,' fifth definitely known, where so much is purely con

edition, p. 56. jectural. PROF. TOMLINSON has detected fifteen 6. “Each was careless about publishing bis * points of resemblance.” Many of these, so far works; or rather, objected to do so, lest they as Shakespeare is concerned, are founded on tra- should be acted by rival dramatic companies." In ditions and assumptions which recent investigation the first version of the 1609 edition of Troylus has wholly rejected or dubiously questions. PROF. and Cresseid' there is this advertisement: “Eternall TOMLINSON's statements are a little too positive; reader, you have beere a new play, never stald they give the impression that they are founded on with the stage, never clapper-claw'd with the irrefragable biographic data, whereas such does not palmes of the vulger.” This is an instance of a exist in a life of the Bard of Avon. I have long play published before it was produced on the stage. waited for some of the eminent Shakespearian It has been estimated that there were sixty-five contributors of 'N. & Q.' to touch on these resem- editions of Shakespeare's works published before blances. Molière has, up to this, monopolized his death. The dedication to 'Venus and Adopis attention. It is time to attract' interrogatory and the typographical excellence of the work have potice to the English poet.

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that Shakespeare himself saw this work through genius are enshrined in these works. I do not the press. In the 1598 edition of 'Love's Labour's know whether students have ever remarked the Lost' we find the words, “Newly corrected and innate modesty of the man as displayed in his augmented,” in the 1604 quarto of 'Hamlet,' epilogues. He over and over again expresses his “Newly imprinted and enlarged to almost as much desire to please, and his hope that the work may again as it was, according to the true and perfect give satisfaction; he pleads for forbearance and coppie." The almost inevitable conclusion is that promisos improvement. None but a writer deeply this studied revision, this laboured overhauling, was concerned could have written such epilogues. In done solely with a view to publication. So thought 1597 Shakespeare purchased New Place, and in Mr. Swinburne, in his fine 'Study of Shaže- 1598 he is written down “William Shakespeare speare':

of Stratford-on-Avon, in the county of Warwick, "Scene by scene, line for line, stroke upon stroke, and gentleman,” and is returned as the holder of ton touch after touch, he went over all the old laboured quarters of corn. Necessity has ever been the ground again, and not to ensure success in bis own day, hard law that binds mon to obnoxious pursuits ; and fill bis pockets with contemporary pence, but merely he was now sufficiently independent to have reand wholly with a purpose to make it worthy of himself and bis future students...... Not one single alteration in nounced his profession if it was distasteful. Yet the whole play (Hamlet') can possibly have been it was in these years of comparative affluence that made with a view to stage effect, or to present popularity be produced his noblest works. and profit...... Every change in the text of Hamlet'has

13. “Each preferred the idea or matter, to the impaired its fitness for the stage, and increased its value for the closet in exact and perfect proportion."

comparative disregard of the manner. Ben JonPp. 163, 164,

son did not think 80 :Mr Theodore Watts also refers to this in his Shakespeare must enjoy a part. For though the poet's

" Yet must I not give Nature all, thy art my gentle obituary notice of Lord Tennyson ’:

matter, nature be. His art doth give the fashion." “That he was not an improvisatore, however, any And he goes on to point out that Shakespeare's one can see who will take the trouble to compare the first edition of Romeo and Juliet' with the received

“mind and manners brightly shine in his welltext, the first sketch of 'The Merry Wives of Windsor turned and true-filed lines.” When we examine with the play as we now have it, and the Hamlet' of the matchless beadroll of proverb and idiom, those 1603 with the Hamlet' of 1604, and with the still exquisite snatches of song, those " sugʻred sonnets," further varied version of the play given by Heminge and those glorious specimens of dramatic art, we Condell in the Folio of 1623. If we take into account, moreover, that it is only by the lucky chapter of accidents find it difficult to decide whether he was more that we now posse88 the earlier forms of the three plays concerned for the idea or for the form in which

entioned above, and that most likely the other plays he should present it. Shakespeare's art has been were once in a like condition, we shall come to the con

so long the wonder, the admiration of the worldclusion that there was no more vigilant worker with Dante's sieve than Shakspeare." - Atheneum, 3389, so often praised in volumes of ealogy—that I was

simply amazed when I learned Shakespeare was Each disliked his profession." In sup

classed with those who disregarded manner. port of this PROF. TOMLINSON proffers three oft

There are one or two points to which I might quoted lines of Sonnet cxi. This is not sufficient. refer, bat space compels me to refrain. PROF. Admitting that Shakespeare referred to himself, it TOMLINSON does not carry his survey to the end. could only be true of the mood, or time, or con

Will he allow me to do so? Here at least a striking dition ander which it was written. Again and contrast presents itself. Poor Molière ! how pitiful again in the sonnets we stumble across passages « His means of death, his obscure burial-no noble

is the last page of his " strange eventful history." which triumphantly prove that Shakespeare knew his work to be immortal and took honest pride in rite, nor formal ostentation,”

huddled when the it,“ desiring this man's art, and that man's scope

15 night was darkest into a begrudged grave, with that he might excel :

maimed rites and a small funeral cortège. We

turn to Shakespeare's demise. Buried honourably Not marble, nor the gilded monuments Of princes, sball outlive this powerful rhyme.

in the chancel of his own country churcb, attended Sonnet lv.

by friends and mourned for by his family, his Your monument shall be my gentle verse,

affairs in order, with faith expressed in his 'Pilot,' Which eyes not yet created shall o'erread;

“when he had crossed the Bar," while those who And tongues to be, your being shall rehearse, When all the breathers of this world are dead;

knew felt that a prince and a great man had fallen You still shall live (such virtue hath my pen),

in Britain. This is gratifying, and redounds to the Where breath most breathes, even in the mouths of men, credit of our own beloved country. Sonnet lxxxi.

W. Ä. HENDERSON. Shakespeare's profession was dramatist. Now I

Dublin. hold he could not have produced the works he did In regard to the earliest collected editions of had be disliked his calling. He who reads may note Molière's works, I have a volume of the 1682 that the whole soul and head and energy of a edition which contains the “Privilege du Roy,”

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granted by Louis XIV. to Denis Thierry, "Mar. George Cruikshank, G. M. Greig, Andrew Geddes, chand Libraire Imprimeur,” for an extension of R.A., Sir John Gilbert, R. Herdman, D. O. Hill, the nine years granted to Molière, on March 18, R.S.A., Sir George Harvey, P.R.S.A., William 1671, in which he was to have the sole right of Kidd, R.S.A., Sir Edwin Landseer, R. A., Thomas printing, “toutes les Pièces de Théâtre, com- Landseer, W. H. Lizars, E. H. Miller (New posées pour nostre divertissement” by him. Denis York), R. C. Lucas, W. H. Paton, David Scott, Thierry bumbly represents that by the terms of R.S.A., John Moyr Smith, J. S. Storer, Thomas the original “permission," as only one edition of Stothard, R.A., Rov. M. W. Peters, R.A., John the works had been published, finished in 1675, Thurston, J. McWhirter, J. M. Wright. This the “Privilege " did not expire until 1684. This, last artist must not be confounded with another however, seems to have been disputed by other Wright ("Scotus ") of the same initials. The “Libraires et Imprimeurs," and in consequence, illustrator of Cunningham's quarto, born in London, on Feb. 15, 1680,

was a pupil of Stothard, and these very beautiful “En consideration des grandes sommes qu'il a payées, transcripts have, I think, never been excelled as pour achopter la Cession dudit Privilege, et des frais et subject illustrations to Burns's poems, and I am dépences qu'il luy a convenu faire pour ladite impres- glad to find, from MR. VIRTUE's reply, that they sion,"

are still intact and in safo custody. The picture Denis Thierry was permitted,

of 'Tam O'Shanter,' by Abraham Cooper, R.A., “ d'imprimer, vendre et dobiter les Pièces de Théâtre engraved in the same edition, was originally et autres (Euvres dudit de Molière, durant le temps et exhibited at the British Institution in 1814. espace de six années ; à compter du jour que ledit Burns was himself a landscape painter—in words. Privilege par nous accordé audit de Molière, en datte du 18 Mar 1671, sera expiré."

His poems, when describing the scenery of his I suppose that the extended "Privilege ” would David Octavius Hill must be awarded the laurels


much-loved country, are pictures ; and to the late end in 1690.

J. F. MANSERGH. Liverpool.

for perpetaating with his pencil these word pic

tores on canvas. Sixty beautiful landscapes, each When, as DR. BREWER reminds us, François de and all painted on the spots suggested by the Harlay de Chanvallon, that gay archbishop, refused references in the poems, worthily illustrate the Molière the ritos of sepulture, Chapelle, an Abbé “ land of Burns," under which title they were as gay but not as bigoted, put about the follow- collectively engraved. The original paintings ing :

were publicly exhibited at Edinburgh in 1841, and Puisqu'à Paris en dénio

an octavo catalogue of the collection was printed. La terre après le trépas A ceux qui, pendant la vie,

I have lately seen a series of oil pictures Ont joué de la comédie,

Thomas Stothard, R.A., illustrative of Burns 8 Pourquoi ne jette-t-on pas

poems; but as my reply is already too long and Les bigots dans la voirie ?

discursive, I will defer further reference to them Ils sont dans le même cas !

until a future occasion. W. F. WALLER.


Chelsea, S.W.. BURNS IN ART (8th S. ii. 428, 451, 472).-Your Permit me to refer your correspondent to some correspondent's surprise at the few exhibited pic- excellent engravings from paintings by well-known tures during recent years deriving inspiration Scotch artists, published for the members of the from the verse of Scotia’s bard applies equally, I Royal Association for the Promotion of Fine Arts think, to other poets. Apparently very material in Scotland, illustrative of Burns's poems. Three subjects at the present time attract the bawbees of them are in my possession (1) The Soldier's in preference to the super-mundane breathings of a Return,' 1857 ; (2) Auld Lang Syne,' 1859; (3) poet's soul. Still, from the time of David Allan Illustrated Songs of Robert Burns,' 1861, each of down to Charles Martin Hardie a large number of them containing half a dozen well-executed eminent artists have devoted their pencils to depict- engravings, and procurable, no doubt, for a small ing both people and places immortalized by the sum. The original pictures from which they were verse of Burds. My Burnsiana notes yield the taken are probably in private collections in Scotfollowing list, which may be of some assistance to land. MR. SHELLEY ; but it is far from being complete.

I can remember to have seen many years ago As many of the paintings and drawings have been one of them from No. 3, “ Last May a braw engraved as illustrations to the poems, I shall be wooer," painted by Erskine Nicol, R.S.A., in pleased to supply the references should your corre- which the figures were remarkably well execated, spondent require them: David Allan, Sir William at "the tryst o’ Dalgarnock.” The “ braw wooer Allan, P.R.Ŝ.A., T. Allom, W. H. Bartlett, J. was looking at Jean, who is also casting a sly glance Burnet, A. Carse, Sam Bougb, Abraham Cooper, at him over her left shoulder. She was dressed in R.A., F. A. Chapman (New York), John Faed, the homely attire of bed-gowo, short fastian

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